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Re: Tour of the server room in the Airbus 350

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post #23

Even assuming quadruple redundancy, seven nines uptime and resilience to extreme conditions and cosmic rays, this looks way way bigger than it should be. One explanation could be that the certification process for anything aviation related is so expensive and slow that we're actually looking at tech from 15+ years ago.

If you mean physically bigger than it is certainly true that avionics, like automative, uses larger components with higher ratings and avoids a lot of high pitch integrated circuits. This makes things easier test and likely to be more reliable. It also means you might have a single euro-card just to handle the input from a single airplane sensor even though in the non safety-critical world, we would easily mux them onto a single interface.

Re: Tour of the server room in the Airbus 350

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post #6

> unauthorized persons can not get there for reasons I will not show Not sure what else can be there, I mean it's already a critical infrastructure of the plane what we saw

He might mean that what happens if you trespass won't be shown! There might be a gas release system that would neutralise an attacker or perhaps just open the door to the hold so they freeze!

Re: Tour of the server room in the Airbus 350

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post #24

So the next breed of terrorists will likely be those who’ll take over the flight avionics while on the plane? Laptops to be banned soon

How would you plug your Macbook into the plane's network?

Get some buddies to load some luggage. Walk in while loading luggage?

Re: Tour of the server room in the Airbus 350

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post #14

Later in the video at 4:48 approx he demonstrates the nav computer GUI in the cockpit and I cringed when he used the touchscreen and there was a lag of about 2-5 (!) seconds after every interaction. My... god.... I kind of almost heard the mechanical drive seeking and reading and searching the heavily fragmented map data...

Youtube interrupted the video with an ad for me exactly at that timestamp, airplanes still need to catch up. So much monetization left on the table. Pilots must be among the most valuable target audience.

Where's the commercial benefit though? The cost of certification is huge so upgrades after initial certification don't happen unless the tech has big cost benefit (or safety, which is also cost at second order).

Hence A320 still running on Motorola 68000 of Sega Genesis etc fame.

And 737max having a top panel from the 60s.

Re: Tour of the server room in the Airbus 350

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How would you plug your Macbook into the plane's network?

You say that, but I'm always astounded when they talk about cyberterrorists being able to get into the power networks and similar bits of national infrastructure which really shouldn't be connected to the public Internet at all.

SCADA based on Windows exist and are connected to the internet via telnet and FTP. These things were deployed 20 years ago and are still in operation.

Re: Tour of the server room in the Airbus 350

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post #14

Later in the video at 4:48 approx he demonstrates the nav computer GUI in the cockpit and I cringed when he used the touchscreen and there was a lag of about 2-5 (!) seconds after every interaction. My... god.... I kind of almost heard the mechanical drive seeking and reading and searching the heavily fragmented map data...

Probably because it is 10 year old older hardware but thoroughly tested. Using Chrome/JS/CSS on the latest Ryzen might be neat but when you need to transport 300 passengers daily around there is other sort of concerns then taking up 3 folks to the ISS every 6 months.

That is no excuse. It was possible to create almost instantly responsive UIs more than 20 years ago.

Re: Tour of the server room in the Airbus 350

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How would you plug your Macbook into the plane's network?

Get some buddies to load some luggage. Walk in while loading luggage?

Luggage is rolled in with containers and then locked in place (to prevent them rolling around), that's what the rails at the bottom are there for. You would not be able to get out again.

Re: Tour of the server room in the Airbus 350

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How would you plug your Macbook into the plane's network?

Get some buddies to load some luggage. Walk in while loading luggage?

I don't know a ton about a modern airliner but my guess would be that the door between the server compartment and the cargo bay can't simply be opened from the cargo bay, as it would be way too easy for anyone to enter the cockpit.

Re: Tour of the server room in the Airbus 350

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably because it is 10 year old older hardware but thoroughly tested. Using Chrome/JS/CSS on the latest Ryzen might be neat but when you need to transport 300 passengers daily around there is other sort of concerns then taking up 3 folks to the ISS every 6 months.

It was certified as testes, so the lag has been there for the whole 10 years.

Dependability and reliability override responsiveness
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