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Experts Weigh in on Pentagon UFO Report

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Re: Experts Weigh in on Pentagon UFO Report

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Post by bostonsre »

davidhyde wrote: post #12

The media appears to miss that fact that something that happens in physical reality can become corrupted by the time it gets rendered to a computer screen. The complicated military systems are hallucinating now. Or am I missing something? Did multiple pilots see this thing with their own eyes from different angles without any technology in between?

There were naked eye visuals from multiple pilots, targeting pod identifications, and radar from ships were also picking up whatever it was.

It is surprisingly convincing evidence of a peer state adversary with a huge tech advantage or... something else. I was moved from "no f'ing way do ufos exist", to "wtf.. it actually seems plausible" when reading up on it.

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Post by kubeflowbro »

davidhyde wrote: post #12

The media appears to miss that fact that something that happens in physical reality can become corrupted by the time it gets rendered to a computer screen. The complicated military systems are hallucinating now. Or am I missing something? Did multiple pilots see this thing with their own eyes from different angles without any technology in between?

Both pilots called in the tic tac, their IR sensors picked it up, they were able to get a lock on with their onboard radar, and the ship picked it up on the their radar. They definitely ran into something

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Post by bostonsre »

ajsnigrutin wrote: post #15
blunte wrote: post #6

It is typical human self-centeredness to assume we are the only sentient beings with the ability to move ourselves around a plane or beyond. It is also mathematically silly to assume that of all possible beings over current universe timeline that we are the most technically advanced. We have only existed for a minuscule sliver of that timespan. That’s not to say that we are statistically likely to have been visited,…

But how would anyone find us? If we accept that the max speed in space is lightspeed, then we're basically hidden. Why? Most of our communication relies on radiowaves... even communication to/from space. Now looking at history, we've known and used radiowaves for maybe a 100 years, and considering the current enviromental trends, we might be using it for eg. 500 more, before we die out. Or maybe 10.000. Mathematicall…

This could explain it, on the front page of hn right now: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27527384

Maybe they are prepping the battlefield to exterminate some pests?

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Post by ssully »

vorpalhex wrote: post #28
godtoldmetodoit wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the tic-tac incident, yes. In the 60 minutes interview two pilots in separate planes reported seeing something causing a disturbance in the ocean, and a "tic-tac" like object about the size of their jets that seemed to notice them and matched one of the planes in a turn.

Matching the plane makes it seem more like an optical effect than less of one.

I would agree with optical effect if we were only talking about the matching aspect, but doing so ignore the rest of the incident.

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Post by ancientworldnow »

black6 wrote: post #7

Why is it mostly Navy pilots reporting the phenomena and there are not any data in the visible spectrum? Because the Navy has Project NEMESIS[0] in the works whose goal is to spoof instrumentation. 0: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/29505/the-navys-secret...

Except there is visual data including the pilots eyewitness and photo and video in the classified report (according to people who have seen it).

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Post by throwaway879 »

Tenoke wrote: post #19

Given that people (and governments/military) have believed in many phenomena that were later found to have a mundane explanation I'd expect reports like this in a world where there aren't aliens flying around. That, and it making no sense for us to only see evidence for them on earth but not when looking at space, and that there's very few objectives they can be achieving with big ships flying around here for decades…

Teleport? Wormhole? Advanced tech that makes them pop up in our space? I doubt it. But not sure how else we have those things caught on military radars and pilot cameras that are not always explainable by optical phenomenon related to orbital objects or natural atmospheric phenomenon.

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Post by avl999 »

davidhyde wrote: post #12

The media appears to miss that fact that something that happens in physical reality can become corrupted by the time it gets rendered to a computer screen. The complicated military systems are hallucinating now. Or am I missing something? Did multiple pilots see this thing with their own eyes from different angles without any technology in between?

The tic-tac ufo and the USS Nimitz incidents are eye witness accounts of pilots observing these crafts while them also being registered on the radar. It would be one hell of a coincidence for machinery and multiple humans to malfunction in the same way at the same time.

Most of these navy reports involve eye witness accounts of trained and credible pilots.

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Post by typeformer »

tiahura wrote: post #10

Can anyone suggest an analysis by a sensor engineer with their best guess as to what we're seeing?

The best analysis is by Cmd. Chad Underwood who actually filmed one of the videos and is a good expert on the radar and camera sensors used https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-6-lt-cmdr-chad... Also, Mick West’s so called “debunking” is poorly done and an insult to these pilots.
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