I don't really understand this but I'm not sure which questions to ask. What's the point? Is this just a smear campaign? Why is this getting upvotes?
As I run past the RIM buildings, I see these posters
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Re: As I run past the RIM buildings, I see these posters
#32So, an Ad company (Paybuyer - "a tiny startup with a major technology") makes a website campaigning people not to use AdSense?
> "Help defend RIM, your city, and universities by joining a rally outside RIM's Annual General Meeting"
I feel sorry for those who will actually go there, thinking that by this they will help RIM, and not that in fact they're helping Paybuyer.
EDIT: One more thing, instead of ignoring this kind of stuff, it gets submitted on HN. By doing this it get's spread. When someone is trolling and someone else replies to him, guess who wins. This shouldn't have been submitted at all.
Re: As I run past the RIM buildings, I see these posters
#33I have long had a distrust for Google so I can understand the anti-Google sentiment. If we want a competitive battleground in the market, every player needs to be balanced. I was one of the earliest Android adopters but now I see that I must move on to one of the other underdogs (i.e. Nokia or HP).
> every player needs to be balanced Correction: at least two players need to be balanced. iPhone, to my mind, provides just such a balance. Trying to boost every single also-ran product into a position of strategic equity is a waste of time. Right now, RIM is the poster child for the Innovator's Dilemma, and there's little anyone including RIM can do about it.
You mention 'at least two players' but from your explanation, you seem satisfied with ONLY two players. I disagree. I'd rather have multiple competitive players than merely two.
Re: As I run past the RIM buildings, I see these posters
#34Is this one of those "it doesn't have to make sense, it's just for publicity" things? Why are the uni students holding a rally? What connection do they have to"Paybuyer, LLC" which funds this Adwords competitor?
> Is this one of those "it doesn't have to make sense, it's just for publicity" things? Pretty much. > Why are the uni students holding a rally? What connection do they have to"Paybuyer, LLC" which funds this Adwords competitor? It's not a rally; they're holding up giant signs to face traffic. I think it was four people to a sign. (It didn't occur to me to take a picture until I was already far away.) This is just a…
These aren't my pictures, but they were posted to Twitter, so I think they're fair game:
Re: As I run past the RIM buildings, I see these posters
#35The website is laughable. The claims made all end in nonsequiturs. Paybuyer is highly speculative and vastly overestimating its ability to disrupt Google Adwords, even with their proposed backing from Waterloo and RIM.
Furthermore I don't pity RIM in the least. They made their bed. They chose to keep their products "business oriented" and got left behind when it came to innovation and, in the end, productivity. Why should I chastise Google for opening their platform and offering services for free? Google's model was clearly a better one at drawing customers in, which in turn fuels their advertising through use of mobile advertising in free apps.
The website claims Adwords funds Android and that's why it's evil, because it creates a "moat" around Google that makes it nigh impossible to compete with Google. I disagree. I believe Adwords and Android are symbiotic. They fuel each other, and if your company can't compete with Google then DON'T TRY TO COMPETE WITH GOOGLE. Choosing to do so is a huge risk, though it may net huge rewards. By taking them on you accept your fate, be it failure or success. Don't ask us to intervene on your behalf. I gain nothing by backing Paybuyer.
Also, Paybuyer is a horrible name for a company.
Re: As I run past the RIM buildings, I see these posters
#36As a fellow Waterloo resident, supporting local companies is cool. However, I see no evidence that Paybuyer is located in Waterloo, this page http://www.paybuyer.com/help/prove/ has a Arizona address, and the WHOIS http://whois.domaintools.com/paybuyer.org also gives the same Arizona address.
Re: As I run past the RIM buildings, I see these posters
#37If your biggest incentive you offer is to disrupt the business another product, you must not have a very good product.
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#38Looks like these guys have finally figured it out. This campaign is sure to make Waterloo and RIM look good. Oh wait, no, this is actually embarrassing.
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#39I love the quotation. I guess having a website means you make nonsensical statements and then be quoted on some smear campaign's website? "This campaign may be the dumbest thing ever posted to the Internet" -- Jonathan Rockway, jrock.us. Credible! (Also, while Google ads may have funded the beginning of Android, it has enough corporate sponsorship now that it could easily outlive Google. Samsung or HTC could easily t…
Do you think that Android in its current incarnation as quasi-open-source, free to adopt, would survive? Or do you think it would be death by a thousand forks, where Samsung, HTC, Motorola, etc. all grabbed their own copy of the repository and made TouchWiz, Sense, and Blur respectively a core part of the UI? I just can't see how Android as a device-agnostic OS would survive without a relatively neutral curator.
Re: As I run past the RIM buildings, I see these posters
#40Surprisingly, that strip of land they're standing on is actually Waterloo city property. It's a strange stunt for a service that looks pretty crappy but it sure did attract a lot of attention from bemused RIM employees milling about this morning.