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Re: Wapp – A Web-Application Framework for Tcl

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Post by kevin_thibedeau » Fri, Jun 11, 2021, 3:52 PM UTC

It seems like many of these commands should be methods on an OO object or at least subcommands of "wapp".

Re: Wapp – A Web-Application Framework for Tcl

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Post by doublerabbit » Fri, Jun 11, 2021, 3:59 PM UTC

mhd wrote: post #16

cutler wrote: post #12

For TCL? But why?

Tcl had a very short time in the fickle web dev spotlight, mostly due to Aolserver and Philip Greenspun. Something between CGI with Perl and whatever Java had to offer in the deep end of the 90s. At that time, a few lucky folks made way too much money using weird languages for the fledgling commercial internet. http://aolserver.github.io https://philip.greenspun.com/tcl/

Just throwing this out there, NaviServer is the replacement to aolserver. It's in active development and pretty awesome to what it can do. OpenACS is a prime example

https://openacs.org

https://wiki.tcl-lang.org/page/NaviServer

Re: Wapp – A Web-Application Framework for Tcl

#33

Post by PedroBatista » Fri, Jun 11, 2021, 4:01 PM UTC

talkinghead wrote: post #4

i feel like a good business idea would be showing new product names / logos to a group of 50 people from various demographics and ages to see if the name clashes with something else. bc this one quite quite funny

I'm sure pretty much every word clashes with something and is "quite funny" at some point in time, and that's not even considering other idioms.

Better just call it whatever you find OK at the time ( minus the legal stuff ).

Btw, having a framework called Wet Ass PussPuss -> (,)++ for short it's pretty cool.

Re: Wapp – A Web-Application Framework for Tcl

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Post by bachmeier » Fri, Jun 11, 2021, 4:03 PM UTC

edwinyzh wrote: post #23

cutler wrote: post #12

For TCL? But why?

IIRC, the author of SQLite uses TCL.

He used to be a member of the core TCL development team.

Re: Wapp – A Web-Application Framework for Tcl

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Post by gilbetron » Fri, Jun 11, 2021, 4:13 PM UTC

I've heavily used TCL twice in my career, and while I find it an interesting experiment in a language, and actually enjoy a lot of it, I would never recommend it to anyone, nor would I ever pick it for a project. The core idea of "everything is a string" just has a lot of failure modes, and you find yourself making common errors even after years of developing with it.

But it's a really neat exploration of a "what if" in programming languages.

Re: Wapp – A Web-Application Framework for Tcl

#36

Post by bogwog » Fri, Jun 11, 2021, 4:38 PM UTC

Cardi B's favorite framework

Re: Wapp – A Web-Application Framework for Tcl

#37

Post by jlg23 » Fri, Jun 11, 2021, 5:35 PM UTC

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #31

It seems like many of these commands should be methods on an OO object or at least subcommands of "wapp".

What could be the benefit of dragging OO into this?

Re: Wapp – A Web-Application Framework for Tcl

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Post by anoncake » Fri, Jun 11, 2021, 5:44 PM UTC

fmakunbound wrote: post #30

cutler wrote: post #12

For TCL? But why?

Why not? Also, sometimes it seems “hacker” in Hacker News has been lost and replaced with corporate group think consensus, here.

"Growth Hacker News"

Re: Wapp – A Web-Application Framework for Tcl

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Post by andrewshadura » Fri, Jun 11, 2021, 5:46 PM UTC

jlg23 wrote: post #37

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #31

It seems like many of these commands should be methods on an OO object or at least subcommands of "wapp".

What could be the benefit of dragging OO into this?

It would be more Tclish, more similar what other Tcl packages (third-party and core ones) do.

Re: Wapp – A Web-Application Framework for Tcl

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Post by tekromancr » Fri, Jun 11, 2021, 6:43 PM UTC

dqv wrote: post #15

badesalz wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

certified geek seven days a week

In all seriousness, I don't think there is much overlap in people who know about Wapp and those who know about WAP.

I don't think it would be hard to imagine people would be aware of an VERY RECENT INCREDIBLY POPULAR song.

Just because you like web shit doesn't mean you are completely disconnected from the greater culture.