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Launch HN: Okay (YC W20) – Analytics for engineering teams

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Re: Launch HN: Okay (YC W20) – Analytics for engineering teams

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Post by dang »

ablekh wrote: post #29
dang wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I need to make sure that startups say something about this when they're launching. It came up yesterday too: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27447214 .

It certainly would be nice. I have an off-topic, but, nevertheless, important request in the question format: is there any chance that HN UI will be improved in the nearest future by allowing users to selectively expand & collapse individual discussion threads ? The lack of this feature is IMO a very annoying issue and a glaring example of how simplicity taken to an extreme leads to a significant friction in UX (whic…

You can collapse threads by clicking [-] and expand by clicking [n more]. Are you asking for something different?

Re: Launch HN: Okay (YC W20) – Analytics for engineering teams

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Post by ablekh »

dang wrote: post #31
ablekh wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It certainly would be nice. I have an off-topic, but, nevertheless, important request in the question format: is there any chance that HN UI will be improved in the nearest future by allowing users to selectively expand & collapse individual discussion threads ? The lack of this feature is IMO a very annoying issue and a glaring example of how simplicity taken to an extreme leads to a significant friction in UX (whic…

You can collapse threads by clicking [-] and expand by clicking [n more]. Are you asking for something different?

Oops, I'm sorry! Perhaps, I have focused so intensely on the content of so many interesting discussions on HN that I somehow totally missed that control (unexpectedly to me, located on right side of the anchor label). Thank you for pointing at it and please accept my sincere apology for unwarranted criticism, which, obviously, I'm retracting. :-)

Re: Launch HN: Okay (YC W20) – Analytics for engineering teams

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Post by dang »

ablekh wrote: post #32
dang wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can collapse threads by clicking [-] and expand by clicking [n more]. Are you asking for something different?

Oops, I'm sorry! Perhaps, I have focused so intensely on the content of so many interesting discussions on HN that I somehow totally missed that control (unexpectedly to me, located on right side of the anchor label). Thank you for pointing at it and please accept my sincere apology for unwarranted criticism, which, obviously, I'm retracting. :-)

No worries! I'm just glad that we actually have what you were asking for. I wasn't sure :)

Re: Launch HN: Okay (YC W20) – Analytics for engineering teams

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Post by theoblank »

ablekh wrote: post #15

What is the point of having a webpage called "Pricing", which has practically no information about pricing? (Rhetorical question)

This practice seems to be becoming more and more normal for B2B products. I like to see pricing too, but understand that in some cases it’s not the best sales funnel.

(At the end of the day it should be a measurable part of the sales funnel, and perhaps should be A/B tested.)

For Okay, I wonder about the hybrid approach. They could have the “startup plan” that has published pricing and self-service signup, and then the “enterprise plan” that requires contacting them for pricing and setup.

Re: Launch HN: Okay (YC W20) – Analytics for engineering teams

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Post by bradknowles »

Unfortunately, this name choice destroys your discoverability.

Try googling for the word “okay”. Now, try googling for the word “google”.

The Chef and Puppet communities have some of this problem themselves, although with Chef you can at least include the original name of the company that created the product.

Imagine if IBM was to launch today, and they chose to name themselves “Machine”. Just how useful would that name actually be? Or if Microsoft launched today, and they chose to call themselves just “Soft”.

It’s not like you can copyright the word “okay”.

Naming is hard. For many reasons. We know that. It is one of only two “hard” problems in computer science, and I submit that it is the only universal “hard” problem.

You need to spend enough time to get this right, and do so before you launch, otherwise you are crippling yourself for the life of the company or product.

With respect, nothing you do with your product or company will make a difference if you don’t have a suitably discoverable and memorable name.

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