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Google’s new popup will further weaken Facebook’s advertisement business

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Re: Google’s new popup will further weaken Facebook’s advertisement business

#31

The value of the location based tracking is overrated. Anyway, if you post an image to Facebook, Instagram or WhatsApp, the EXIF data has your location, or it can be solved from the content of the image.

What if iOS or Android start to scrub that data for you? Which I wish they did...

I've turned off location tagging on my Android camera. That setting exists.

Re: Google’s new popup will further weaken Facebook’s advertisement business

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But Google still gets that info, just not Facebook. How is this not abuse of its market position?

For me, it's a lesser evil thing I guess. If I have to choose only between Facebook and Google, I'd choose Google to have my data.

You get a choice there, unlike your isp and credit cards :)

Re: Google’s new popup will further weaken Facebook’s advertisement business

#34

Why can't governments make tracking illegal? These companies that manipulate population into buying products they don't want or need are the mythical "broken window". Nobody mention how all this online business contributes to global warming. Factories produce useless products, that need to be stored, delivered, disposed of...

> Why can't governments make tracking illegal?

Because they're not really in charge anymore.

Re: Google’s new popup will further weaken Facebook’s advertisement business

#35

What is the point of "broad" location? Cant this be deducted from your cellular network? Wouldnt that save the trouble of keeping your GPS completly off ? I saw on some new android phones something called "privacy features" which would mean not giving access to contacts for example. The problem is all apps know you are using this feature and they nag you to turn it off. Whats the point then? How I want the thing to b…

> How I want the thing to be, "oh, the contacts permission is given but nothing here. Oh well.

That's actually a good idea. I wonder if any Android distros do this. In theory, it should be possible, but I don't know how tricky it would be to implement.

Re: Google’s new popup will further weaken Facebook’s advertisement business

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

'...and death on mobile can kill Facebook?' Seriously wondering what impact this would have on the world other than a positive one?

I'm not sure, going to a more monopolistic world still seems bad to me, even if I like and trust this particular player a little bit less than the others.

Facebook is a monopoly, in most parts of the world. I know some would claim that Twitter is a competitor, but I don't really see the two having much in common, other than being social networks.

Re: Google’s new popup will further weaken Facebook’s advertisement business

#37

What is the point of "broad" location? Cant this be deducted from your cellular network? Wouldnt that save the trouble of keeping your GPS completly off ? I saw on some new android phones something called "privacy features" which would mean not giving access to contacts for example. The problem is all apps know you are using this feature and they nag you to turn it off. Whats the point then? How I want the thing to b…

Broad location narrows you down to a neighborhood where your economic value can be inferred so the optimal ads can be directed at your way. No sense in showing Bentley ads to the poors.

Re: Google’s new popup will further weaken Facebook’s advertisement business

#38

The value of the location based tracking is overrated. Anyway, if you post an image to Facebook, Instagram or WhatsApp, the EXIF data has your location, or it can be solved from the content of the image.

What if iOS or Android start to scrub that data for you? Which I wish they did...

On Samsung's version of Android there is an option to remove the location data before you share to an app.

https://i.imgur.com/PVAaA2d.jpg

Re: Google’s new popup will further weaken Facebook’s advertisement business

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post #19

But Google still gets that info, just not Facebook. How is this not abuse of its market position?

For me, it's a lesser evil thing I guess. If I have to choose only between Facebook and Google, I'd choose Google to have my data.

Why is that? Does Cambridge Analytica-type stuff not happen with Google?

I feel the same way as you but not because I think one is less evil. Rather, it's because Google brings me much more value in its search engine and productivity suite.

Re: Google’s new popup will further weaken Facebook’s advertisement business

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So we basically are seeing that google was "right" from their point of view in securing a mobile OS. Facebook maybe thought this day would never arrive and could have avoided that by doing their own mobile OS too. Well, maybe they declared this battle as lost and focused on the next one: VR. Problem is that VR took too long to arrive and death on mobile can kill Facebook?

Facebook realized that no amount of money was going to will a third mobile OS into existence. cf. Microsoft.

They didn't even find enough users for their Android "launcher" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook_Home

A Facebook phone probably would give even more critical reception ...

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