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Pfizer vaccine reprograms innate immune responses

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Re: Pfizer vaccine reprograms innate immune responses

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Not peer reviewed

I like seeing the strategy of asking for the highest level of accuracy and testing for all things that do not confirm my biases while being more lax about the things that confirm my biases. I've seen this strategy becoming much more popular these past few years.

Re: Pfizer vaccine reprograms innate immune responses

#32
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless you are a researcher in the field, there are certainly more important things for you to be worrying about. Just get a vaccine, any vaccine.

I fail to see any logical reasoning here. This research suggests an unspecific alteration to your immune system. It affects everyone who gets vaccinated, not just researchers. If you are young and healthy, there is a high chance that getting infected with COVID is harmless. Your body will deal with it in the natural way. Furthermore, the risk of getting infected at all is not 100%. I could make the same argument here…

If you get COVID, statistically you’ll pass it on to a few people. Let’s hope you live amongst less selfish people so your own selfish behavior doesn’t affect other.

Re: Pfizer vaccine reprograms innate immune responses

#34
post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I fail to see any logical reasoning here. This research suggests an unspecific alteration to your immune system. It affects everyone who gets vaccinated, not just researchers. If you are young and healthy, there is a high chance that getting infected with COVID is harmless. Your body will deal with it in the natural way. Furthermore, the risk of getting infected at all is not 100%. I could make the same argument here…

If you get COVID, statistically you’ll pass it on to a few people. Let’s hope you live amongst less selfish people so your own selfish behavior doesn’t affect other.

Source please? Just by saying "statistically" does not make it true.

Re: Pfizer vaccine reprograms innate immune responses

#35
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless you are a researcher in the field, there are certainly more important things for you to be worrying about. Just get a vaccine, any vaccine.

I fail to see any logical reasoning here. This research suggests an unspecific alteration to your immune system. It affects everyone who gets vaccinated, not just researchers. If you are young and healthy, there is a high chance that getting infected with COVID is harmless. Your body will deal with it in the natural way. Furthermore, the risk of getting infected at all is not 100%. I could make the same argument here…

> affects everyone who gets vaccinated, not just researchers.

If you understood my comment to stand in opposition to that obvious statement, then I'm not surprised its logic escaped you. Or are you just indulging in pointless rhetoric?

For most of us there are indeed more important things to worry about than Covid. So just do what society asks of you, for good reason, and move on.

Re: Pfizer vaccine reprograms innate immune responses

#36
post #22

Is anyone here well versed in this stuff? Can you dumb it down a little bit for me? Is the article saying that the pfizer vaccine reduces the inflammatory response to covid19 and happens to increase the inflammatory response to some random fungus? I must have re-read this article a whole bunch of times and I'm still not convinced I understood anything at all.

The experimental covid vaccines changes your immune system response to non-covid pathogens in ways that aren‘t fully understood, potentially permanently. For example, your immune system will react with a stronger inflammatory response to fungus.

They also warn that those effects could change (worsen) the effectiveness of other vaccines, for other diseases.

Re: Pfizer vaccine reprograms innate immune responses

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I hope you continue to social distance for $N years, because vaccination isn't just about you -- its about protecting those who would be at risk. It's also about reducing the risk of mutation. The more people it can infect, the greater the risk. We don't want to be dealing with a new variant that the vaccines don't protect against, and go back to square one. Being scared of a well-tested vaccine over a virus that has…

> I hope you continue to social distance for $N years, because vaccination isn't just about you -- its about protecting those who would be at risk. Those "at risk" should already have been vaccinated before the people "not at risk" have been. > It's also about reducing the risk of mutation. The more people it can infect, the greater the risk. It goes both ways: the more people that are vaccinated, the higher the sele…

Actually, vaccinating all kids is normal

Re: Pfizer vaccine reprograms innate immune responses

#38
post #3

I'm honestly pretty torn at this point which vaccine I should be going for. It seems like every week there is another article insinuating that there is some poorly understood, potentially high impact, facet of a given vaccine. Anyone else "holding out?"

I am a fit man, under 30 and my Vitamin D, C and Zinc levels are high.

I have zero interest in getting any covid vaccine unless forced to.

Re: Pfizer vaccine reprograms innate immune responses

#40
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me I'm waiting $N years till I consider getting a covid shot. According to the oxford calculator[0] my risk of hospitalization is microscopic so I take that chance over trying out new under-tested vaxines. [0] https://qcovid.org/

What’s your risk of killing someone by catching COVID and spreading it?

What’s our risk of killing someone in a car crash? Yet we still all drive.
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