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2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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I'm sure this image is heavily photoshopped, but it looks like they're trying to make a center console that's half touch screen, half physical controls. I wonder what that will look like in reality. https://www.ford.com/is/image/content/dam/vdm_ford/live/en_u...

This is already a reality in the 2020 Mustang Mach E

https://www.google.com/search?q=2020+mustang+mach+e+interior

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

#32

I'm sure this image is heavily photoshopped, but it looks like they're trying to make a center console that's half touch screen, half physical controls. I wonder what that will look like in reality. https://www.ford.com/is/image/content/dam/vdm_ford/live/en_u...

I think it's all still touch screen, looks like that new trend, "Smart depth" or whatever it is.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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post #23

I have no idea if this’ll be lightning or a lead balloon, because a significant amount of pickup truck buyers do it for the machismo. Which sounds like some city-slicker talking down to the cheap seats, except, I grew up in a town named Farmington. (Go Farmers.) I know pickups. I know the people who drive pickups. My dad sneers at fancy new pickups because he used to shove a good 700 pounds of mink pelts in a pickup,…

Also, this pickup is going to be way faster than the IC one.

That helps with the overcompensation buyer.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

#34
It looks like a great vehicle.

I hope ford's got a plan for making millions of battery packs for these things.

I wonder if "backfeed from the EVSE" is going to be a regular / standardized feature of some vehicle chargers in the future?

Combine this with time-of-use awareness and auto-auction mechanisms to backfeed the grid when power's necessary (and turn off back-feeding to not kill linemen repairing wires) it seems like a pretty good extension to car charging.

Elevator pitch:

Public charging installed on streets; charges 3 prices -- "I need power now", "I need this much power before this time" and "I need this much power by this time and you may draw power out of my battery between now and then so long as I have this much charge by this time".

Then you network interconnect these chargers and make a distributed peaker power plant and also make subscription / power deliver fees.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

#35

I'm sure this image is heavily photoshopped, but it looks like they're trying to make a center console that's half touch screen, half physical controls. I wonder what that will look like in reality. https://www.ford.com/is/image/content/dam/vdm_ford/live/en_u...

It already exists in the electric mustang, and looks exactly like that. Go to 10:00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4n5iPqxpaw

Very cool, I love it, I hope more automakers figure out clever ways to keep analog controls mixed in with touch.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

#36
I just remember Clarkson talking about the hybrid f150 on TG. He said then that Ford had a survey of features that customers wanted added to the truck. A hybrid powertrain, he claimed, was something like number 24 on the list. In other words there are 23 things customers want more then a hybrid. If that is true, then i'm unclear how much of a profit- maker a fully electric f150 will be.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

#37

I don't think ford will be able to build enough to meet demand. And ford dealers are going to price gouge the crap out of buyers. I have a friend of a friend who is a ford dealer and they are charging quite a bit over for regular F150's because of the chip shortage.

The chip shortage will look like nothing, once the EV ramp increases.

Batteries are always the bottleneck. Ford announced a 60GWh plant partnership, but that will only hold them over for several years of growth and is still a ways away from actually producing cells.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

#38

Folks I know that have owned Ford vehicles in the past few years have done nothing but complain about issues with electrical subsystem and accessory breakdown. I'd be very wary of buying a Ford period, much less one that relies entirely on electricity to move. Not FUD, as I have no dog in the fight and personally don't care if anyone else buys one, but its a make of automobile I avoid.

American vehicles had a history of poor quality control and reliability but it's improved in the last 20 years. F150 is the #1 selling truck in USA in Canada.

Our 2011 F150 has been very reliable, mechanically, but the audio wiring is broken in interesting ways. My buddy's older F150 has exactly the same issue. Otherwise it's been trouble free.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

#39

Folks I know that have owned Ford vehicles in the past few years have done nothing but complain about issues with electrical subsystem and accessory breakdown. I'd be very wary of buying a Ford period, much less one that relies entirely on electricity to move. Not FUD, as I have no dog in the fight and personally don't care if anyone else buys one, but its a make of automobile I avoid.

Mate, this is textbook FUD. :) It’s anecdotal and there is no connection between the reliability of a vehicle’s electric motor system and the electrical systems that may have troubled your acquaintances.

Take it as what you perceive, that's fine. That said, saying that there is no connection is speculation. The design, implementation, and supply chain of both aspects of the vehicle deal with electronic components. I don't know if they will make the same mistakes with the drivetrain electronics that they do with other aspects of the vehicle's construction.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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post #4

I guess the fact that's it's electric is a good step. But it seems insane to me that we don't do more to discourage massive consumption of what should be utility vehicles. I'm willing to be 80% of people buying an f150 or similar never have been and never will be building contractors or lumberjacks.

Unfortunately compact pickups aren’t really a thing any more. As a homeowner and a parent this would be a great vehicle for me — having the utility of a truck bed. Not everyone that owns a home does work on it themselves but trucks are very useful. Today my only options are rent a truck or put a trailer hitch on my van and pull a trailer when I need to haul stuff. That’s so much more hassle.

Check out the Hyundai Santa Cruz. Looks like they took the Honda Ridgeline concept and down-sized it a bit.

I currently own a Ridgeline - it's not quite compact, but rides better than a Taco or Ranger and the trunk under the bed is useful.

If the Hyundai existed earlier this year, I'd probably own it instead.

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