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Face masks effectively limit the probability of SARS-CoV-2 transmission

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Re: Face masks effectively limit the probability of SARS-CoV-2 transmission

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This isn't a study; it is a mathematical model [1]. > Here, we develop a quantitative model of airborne virus exposure that can explain these contrasting results and provide a basis for quantifying the efficacy of face masks. We show that mask efficacy strongly depends on airborne virus abundance. Based on direct measurements of SARS-CoV-2 in air samples and population-level infection probabilities, we find that the…

you really had that list ready to go...

Re: Face masks effectively limit the probability of SARS-CoV-2 transmission

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N95/FFP2 seem to be very effective. I wish the media and government would have spent more time in educating people in things like how N95 masks work and that it isn't like a coffee filter. Even thought the pores are larger than a virus the masks are statically charged causes smaller things to get trapped. Many people don't know this but probably had an interaction with static electricity sometime in school and would…

I’m not sure there was any popular doubt over the efficacy of N95 masks. The problem was rather getting one - marketplaces like Amazon restricted access to masks if you weren’t affiliated with a hospital. So you were left with sketchy deals and weird vendor sites. I suspect Amazon killed quite a few people over the last year by restricting access - supply scaled pretty quickly.

Unfortunately, a few of my friends fell victim to the Qanon conspiracy bandwagon and the fact that mask pore size is wider than the virus was heavily circulated as a reason for mask ineffectiveness.

Re: Face masks effectively limit the probability of SARS-CoV-2 transmission

#33

Aren't masks mostly/also about decreasing the area of the air that you pull in (closer to you, or in other words the distance from which you pull is smaller)? like take a piece of paper in front of your face and breath with mask and without

Masks work by trapping particles exhaled or inhaled.

Re: Face masks effectively limit the probability of SARS-CoV-2 transmission

#34

>Surgical masks with particle collection efficiencies around ~50% cannot prevent the release of millions of particles per person and their inhalation by others (green dots in Fig. 1, B and D). In other words, the human-emitted respiratory particle number is so high that we cannot avoid inhaling particles generated by another person even when wearing a surgical mask So the entire premise of the modeling in the paper r…

Virus particles do not travel naked in the air, instead they are colloidally suspended in liquid, both droplets and aerosols. So, if your filter catches the droplets and aerosols, which are much larger in size than the actual virus, the filter works.

Realization that somebody's droplets are getting into your mouth and nose makes one want to wear mask even after pandemic is over :)

Re: Face masks effectively limit the probability of SARS-CoV-2 transmission

#35
Here's the manufacturer's (3M) label:

WARNING: This respirator helps protect against certain particulate contaminants but does not eliminate exposure to or the risk of contracting any disease or infection. Misuse may result in sickness or death. For proper use, see supervisor, or User Instructions.

https://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/1837275O/3m-9132-healthc...

Re: Face masks effectively limit the probability of SARS-CoV-2 transmission

#36

N95/FFP2 seem to be very effective. I wish the media and government would have spent more time in educating people in things like how N95 masks work and that it isn't like a coffee filter. Even thought the pores are larger than a virus the masks are statically charged causes smaller things to get trapped. Many people don't know this but probably had an interaction with static electricity sometime in school and would…

I’m not sure there was any popular doubt over the efficacy of N95 masks. The problem was rather getting one - marketplaces like Amazon restricted access to masks if you weren’t affiliated with a hospital. So you were left with sketchy deals and weird vendor sites. I suspect Amazon killed quite a few people over the last year by restricting access - supply scaled pretty quickly.

You could get halfway with other solutions. The 3-layer design with the synthetic layer in the middle tries to achieve the same idea. It's not going to be as effective as a certified N95, but it's better than a simple cloth. Not sure how common the idea was globally, but it was quite common to make them in Australia.

Re: Face masks effectively limit the probability of SARS-CoV-2 transmission

#37

This isn't a study; it is a mathematical model [1]. > Here, we develop a quantitative model of airborne virus exposure that can explain these contrasting results and provide a basis for quantifying the efficacy of face masks. We show that mask efficacy strongly depends on airborne virus abundance. Based on direct measurements of SARS-CoV-2 in air samples and population-level infection probabilities, we find that the…

Yeah, this right here. Masks efficacy for stopping viral transmission has been heavily studied. I could post literally hundreds more examples of statistically significant, RCT'd science showing they have no effect on viral transmission.

Wearing masks has never been about the science.

Re: Face masks effectively limit the probability of SARS-CoV-2 transmission

#38

This isn't a study; it is a mathematical model [1]. > Here, we develop a quantitative model of airborne virus exposure that can explain these contrasting results and provide a basis for quantifying the efficacy of face masks. We show that mask efficacy strongly depends on airborne virus abundance. Based on direct measurements of SARS-CoV-2 in air samples and population-level infection probabilities, we find that the…

Interesting how some of the linked studies either contradict your statement, or seem to have nothing to do with it.

Re: Face masks effectively limit the probability of SARS-CoV-2 transmission

#39
This entire study seems to be centered around a theoretical, mathematical model, and I didn't see any attempt to actually validate that model.

Basically, the authors seem to assume that the virus behaves according to their formulas, and show that under their assumptions, face masks work, but don't actually prove that their assumptions match reality - or did I miss something?

Re: Face masks effectively limit the probability of SARS-CoV-2 transmission

#40

>Surgical masks with particle collection efficiencies around ~50% cannot prevent the release of millions of particles per person and their inhalation by others (green dots in Fig. 1, B and D). In other words, the human-emitted respiratory particle number is so high that we cannot avoid inhaling particles generated by another person even when wearing a surgical mask So the entire premise of the modeling in the paper r…

Virus particles do not travel naked in the air, instead they are colloidally suspended in liquid, both droplets and aerosols. So, if your filter catches the droplets and aerosols, which are much larger in size than the actual virus, the filter works.

Except that field data shows they don’t because they are not used precisely as required - which means the filter doesn’t work effectively if at all and then it becomes infectious waste that isn’t treated and disposed of correctly.

Human system effects dominate - as the field data shows. It’s like HCQ - works in a lab, not in the real world.

Might be useful in tightly controlled medical settings with adequate filtered ventilation. But there’s no hard evidence beyond that at this stage.

Feynman’s rule still applies.

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