What are some good non-book text-based in-depth resources for learning Elixir?
https://elixirschool.com is really good
Elixir 1.12
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Re: Elixir 1.12
#32See also, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27192873 (Ask HN: Are you satisfied with Elixir or do you regret choosing Elixir?) with great insights about the language. Another popular thread that comes to mind is the one about Discord scaling Elixir ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14748028 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19238221 )
Disclaimer: I use Elixir in production (e.g. here on the French national transport data hub https://transport.data.gouv.fr/?locale=en), but I also like other tools (Ruby, Rust, Crystal etc).
My impression is that some (not all) people had a bad experience partly because they may have reached for Elixir at a period where everything wasn't "settled" (a bit too young). The "first vague of hype" generated some libraries which are now unmaintained (e.g. oauth2), and some parts are still rough (XML, I look at you).
Having upgraded a number of old apps, though, I find that library quality has gone up, the overall developer (and maintainer) experience has improved, and there is a sense of stability which will have a real impact I believe.
There is a need to reach a larger critical mass I believe to really enjoy things in full, but as far as I am concerned, I would be perfectly confident to build my next SaaS on top of it.
Re: Elixir 1.12
#33See also, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27192873 (Ask HN: Are you satisfied with Elixir or do you regret choosing Elixir?) with great insights about the language. Another popular thread that comes to mind is the one about Discord scaling Elixir ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14748028 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19238221 )
>with great insights about the language.
most insights there, in relation to leaving, are not about the language but in relation to the environment, e.g available packages, integration with external tools etc. as reasons for the aforementioned departures.
Re: Elixir 1.12
#34See also, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27192873 (Ask HN: Are you satisfied with Elixir or do you regret choosing Elixir?) with great insights about the language. Another popular thread that comes to mind is the one about Discord scaling Elixir ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14748028 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19238221 )
Sadly that HN thread is biased toward the person/team that is "leaving" Elixir because it wasn't a good fit for them. For the people who understand Elixir/OTP's strengths it's excellent. We use Elixir for several apps and haven't had any issues recruiting/training people (remote). If we were to chose again we would 100% pick Elixir; nothing else comes close for our use-case.
This might be inappropriate but are you hiring right now?
Would love to get a chance at writing in Elixir.
Re: Elixir 1.12
#35The one thing I’ll say about Elixir I’m always impressed how disciplined they are with the issue tracker on GitHub. Currently 17 issues for such a broad piece of work seems nothing less than astonishing.
I believe it is due to 2 things: excellent vision and work first, but also the nature of the language (not a coincidence) tend to lead to strong "lever effect", 2nd level order benefits, hard focus on composability.
I'm, though, curious if other people have more insights about that, because it is truly impressive :-)
Re: Elixir 1.12
#36Great news. I'll wait for the official docker image to be updated (I deploy on my own server with CapRover). Seems a bit weird though that they do not generate images for the same elixir version with different OTP versions. Currently the latest is elixir v1.12.0-rc.1 and erlang 23.
I highly recommend using the hexpm docker images, which you specify with elixir, erlang, and distro versions, e.g. hexpm/elixir1.12-erlang24.0-debian-buster. Since the official Elixir versions aren't pinned to a version of Erlang, we had issues where either Erlang or the distro should change out from under us. But not with the hexpm ones.
I second this - it is the best solution if one wants to decouple upgrades of Elixir vs OTP, and is really useful for long term upgrades (one step at a time).
Re: Elixir 1.12
#37See also, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27192873 (Ask HN: Are you satisfied with Elixir or do you regret choosing Elixir?) with great insights about the language. Another popular thread that comes to mind is the one about Discord scaling Elixir ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14748028 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19238221 )
Sadly that HN thread is biased toward the person/team that is "leaving" Elixir because it wasn't a good fit for them. For the people who understand Elixir/OTP's strengths it's excellent. We use Elixir for several apps and haven't had any issues recruiting/training people (remote). If we were to chose again we would 100% pick Elixir; nothing else comes close for our use-case.
I'll add that even without understanding OTP in full, people will get good results.
I have also had good results with non-Elixir coders learning it with a bit of coaching, and recruiting is OK these days due to interest of developers for the language.
Re: Elixir 1.12
#38Looking into Elixir, but from what i've heard, Elixir isn't very memory efficient when it comes to web servers. Is that still the case? Also where does one host Elixir apps these days? Heroku, Vercel or Bare metal?
Render.com does a great job at running distributed Elixir.
Re: Elixir 1.12
#39Looking into Elixir, but from what i've heard, Elixir isn't very memory efficient when it comes to web servers. Is that still the case? Also where does one host Elixir apps these days? Heroku, Vercel or Bare metal?
I've heard some stories, mostly around XML handling if I recall well, and also due to people not using a form of streaming when it would have been necessary.
I'm curious to know what you have heard with more precision, if possible.
Re: Elixir 1.12
#40Looking into Elixir, but from what i've heard, Elixir isn't very memory efficient when it comes to web servers. Is that still the case? Also where does one host Elixir apps these days? Heroku, Vercel or Bare metal?
Just to get a frame of reference, what is memory efficient for web servers?