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Re: China lands rover on Mars

#31

While I totally agree, the US in turn enables people like Musk to do… well, whatever it is Elon does…. more readily than other countries. Entrepreneurship is hard and especially so if your system of governance isn’t onboard with it.

Same for China enable someone who is in charge of the mission to do whatever it is that person does...

Can we stop for a moment to label anything from China with political statement?...

Things are built by people, not some random business man...

Re: China lands rover on Mars

#32
post #7

It's impressive how far China has come in just 2 decades. How significant is this achievement space technology wise? I still remember the first rover on Mars and it was a really big deal in my eyes back then.

Assuming the Zhurong Mars rover can be successfully released in the next few days, China will become the second country in the world with a working rover on Mars.

Re: China lands rover on Mars

#33
Um.. why isn't this being talked about more? I remember the discussions were very lively everywhere from Youtube to HN and Reddit when India was attempting to land its probe on the moon.

A rover on Mars is a huge thing! Why are discussions relatively tame now?

Re: China lands rover on Mars

#34
post #30

> China had to develop all space technology on their own. It’s hard not to laugh at that statement. China runs the largest IP theft program in the world. To the point U.S. companies factor it in when doing business there. Just search this - https://duckduckgo.com/?q=china+steals&t=fpas&ia=web They also had the “thousand talents program”. That’s not to say what they did was not impressive, it was. But it’s also a lot…

That's funny. The thousand talents program is about attracting talents globally. Now who are you to say that those talents are 'yours' not 'theirs'? How about those talents the US attracted before because 'everyone likes the freedom here'? Are those not stolen simply because the US did it under a different political banner?

> Are those not stolen

stealing is involuntary on the part of the entity being stolen from.

Are those talents being enslaved to produce the IP for the US?

Re: China lands rover on Mars

#35
post #25

I love that China is doing so well in space. I love that China has pulled millions out of poverty with an incredible economic uprising. However I'm terrified of the CCP. I'm terrified of the monitoring and suppression of dissenting views. I don't trust that they won't try to impose their influence on the rest of the world, and I'm not super happy about how they treat their own people. So news like this stirs very mix…

> I'm not super happy about how they treat their own people

Chinese people are certainly treated better from CCP than American people are treated. Look at the hate crimes targeted at Asian...

Re: China lands rover on Mars

#37
post #25

I love that China is doing so well in space. I love that China has pulled millions out of poverty with an incredible economic uprising. However I'm terrified of the CCP. I'm terrified of the monitoring and suppression of dissenting views. I don't trust that they won't try to impose their influence on the rest of the world, and I'm not super happy about how they treat their own people. So news like this stirs very mix…

Meanwhile, Congress is trying to slow down SpaceX https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/05/congress-fires-warni...

Re: China lands rover on Mars

#38
post #25

I love that China is doing so well in space. I love that China has pulled millions out of poverty with an incredible economic uprising. However I'm terrified of the CCP. I'm terrified of the monitoring and suppression of dissenting views. I don't trust that they won't try to impose their influence on the rest of the world, and I'm not super happy about how they treat their own people. So news like this stirs very mix…

The problem is that some of those impressions you got about China are manufactured as part of the politics. Things can't be so torn, can they? Now it's your job to figure out which ones are manufactured and which ones are not.

Re: China lands rover on Mars

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post #25

I love that China is doing so well in space. I love that China has pulled millions out of poverty with an incredible economic uprising. However I'm terrified of the CCP. I'm terrified of the monitoring and suppression of dissenting views. I don't trust that they won't try to impose their influence on the rest of the world, and I'm not super happy about how they treat their own people. So news like this stirs very mix…

> I'm not super happy about how they treat their own people Chinese people are certainly treated better from CCP than American people are treated. Look at the hate crimes targeted at Asian...

I'm not American so I don't really have a horse in that race. But you are comparing how civilians treat each other to how the government treats civilians. To me this is apples and oranges.

Re: China lands rover on Mars

#40

> China had to develop all space technology on their own. It’s hard not to laugh at that statement. China runs the largest IP theft program in the world. To the point U.S. companies factor it in when doing business there. Just search this - https://duckduckgo.com/?q=china+steals&t=fpas&ia=web They also had the “thousand talents program”. That’s not to say what they did was not impressive, it was. But it’s also a lot…

Put your statement in some minimal check. The IP theft you are referring are just random business patent whose sole purpose is to prevent market competition...

If you think a Mars Rover can be copied, well, you better copy one yourself...

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