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Irish health service hit by cyber attack

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Re: Irish health service hit by cyber attack

#31
post #2

Ransomware: Another great "feature" of difficult to trace digital currencies.

apparently the traceability of digital currencies is proving effective in tracking down criminals that might otherwise operate in just cash.

Cryptocurrencies are what allows criminals to scale these attacks. They also significantly decrease the risk of getting caught, compared to accepting cash in a briefcase.

I’m not sure what point you are trying to make.

Re: Irish health service hit by cyber attack

#32

For those concerned about privacy violations, this should be rammed home as an argument against centralized collection of medical health data.

it's actually an argument in favour of well-protected centralized collection. It's more probable that smaller entities arre less protected than bigger ones even if the data they can disclose is more limited.

Re: Irish health service hit by cyber attack

#34
post #22

I love the increase in these kind of attacks, eventually there will be enough pressure for liability legislation for companies to take security seriously.

The first response will be to make laws to punish the perpetrators and to pass knee-jerk cybersecurity laws that create the illusion that something is being done.

The entire technology industry is built on a foundation of limited liability and has a tradition of being ok with defects (eh, it's a small bug). When do we get hardware that is guaranteed to perform and be safe, operating systems, languages and compliers that are safe? It's going to be very difficult to deal with liability in a strict sense. Who's at fault? The OS that had a bug, the library that made the syscall, the code that called the library, the script that ran the program, the network router that allowed the egress, or the user that pushed the button? (edit: fixed typo)

Re: Irish health service hit by cyber attack

#35
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your argument reduces to: "progress" is always good, even if it's bad. I think we're perfectly allowed to discuss whether we think a particular kind of change is a good or bad thing.

I'm not making an argument "for progress" at all. I actually 100% agree that we are allowed to, and should, discuss the ramifications of any kind of change. My point is only that the original comment didn't attempt make any argument, other than the reduced one I outlined.

But they did. They said that digital currencies are difficult to trace and lead to an increase in ransomware. The closest thing to a response you made was "Progress comes with pitfalls".

Re: Irish health service hit by cyber attack

#36

For those concerned about privacy violations, this should be rammed home as an argument against centralized collection of medical health data.

it's actually an argument in favour of well-protected centralized collection. It's more probable that smaller entities arre less protected than bigger ones even if the data they can disclose is more limited.

> It's more probable that smaller entities arre less protected than bigger ones

Size of an organization is not a good proxy for quality of security. Evidence: Colonial Penn, the DC Metro Police Department, Experian, Target, etc...

Re: Irish health service hit by cyber attack

#37
post #5

What kinda scummy scrote you have to be to attack health services during a pandemic. This is a new low.

Well, it was either this or human trafficking.

And with ransomware you don't have to hear the crying of your victims.

Plus if you show mercy on someone people can identify with, like a single mom barely getting by, you can go on draining pensioner's bank accounts like your fucking Robinhood.

Re: Irish health service hit by cyber attack

#38
post #2

Ransomware: Another great "feature" of difficult to trace digital currencies.

Said the medieval King: Ransom: Another great "feature" of difficult-to-trace personal gold coinage What you're actually saying is: Bad thing: Another great "feature" of any kind of positive development in personal sovereignty Or Bad thing: Another great "feature" of any kind of progress --- Progress comes with pitfalls. Sharp knives prepare food and also kill people. You argument effectively reduces to: never innova…

What does your argument reduce to, assuming someone who disagrees does the reducing?

Re: Irish health service hit by cyber attack

#39
post #5

What kinda scummy scrote you have to be to attack health services during a pandemic. This is a new low.

To be honest, at this point I'm in favour of attacks on all health services all the time, to drive home the point that acceptable long-term data protection in this kind of infrastructure doesn't exist and that all data will be stolen at some point, before everything is collected everywhere.

The less data is actually leaked and sold the better, of course, but societies and especially politicians don't seem to learn that easily.

Re: Irish health service hit by cyber attack

#40
post #17
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s just business. Don’t hate the player, hate the game.

Its not business, its ransom, and its a whole different level of ransom. Going after the extremely vulnerable, litterally putting at risk lives. Theres no 'okay' ransom, this is just another all time low.

I guess you’re not actually familiar with capitalism?
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