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Vaccinated Americans now may go without masks in most places, the CDC said

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Re: Vaccinated Americans now may go without masks in most places, the CDC said

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Post by jasonlaramburu »

noodlesUK wrote: post #6

I’ve been in the US throughout this pandemic, and I’ve had to take it extremely seriously because of vulnerable people I live with. I’m glad to be vaccinated and for my life (and my family’s) to be returning to normal. I expect that I’ll continue wearing a mask from time to time even years from now if it becomes socially acceptable, because I like both the anonymity, and the wonders it does for my seasonal allergies.…

There are literally zero downsides to wearing a mask in public, and it's crazy that anyone would shame someone for it. In many Asian countries it is considered civilized and thoughtful to wear a mask when feeling ill to prevent the spread of disease. I too hope this becomes the norm in the US.

Re: Vaccinated Americans now may go without masks in most places, the CDC said

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Post by Miner49er »

jasonlaramburu wrote: post #31
noodlesUK wrote: post #6

I’ve been in the US throughout this pandemic, and I’ve had to take it extremely seriously because of vulnerable people I live with. I’m glad to be vaccinated and for my life (and my family’s) to be returning to normal. I expect that I’ll continue wearing a mask from time to time even years from now if it becomes socially acceptable, because I like both the anonymity, and the wonders it does for my seasonal allergies.…

There are literally zero downsides to wearing a mask in public, and it's crazy that anyone would shame someone for it. In many Asian countries it is considered civilized and thoughtful to wear a mask when feeling ill to prevent the spread of disease. I too hope this becomes the norm in the US.

Some see downsides. There's a reason that in many places in the US it was illegal to wear a mask in public before COVID happened. Most of the time it is to prevent potential law breakers from being anonymous, I think. I don't support it, but I wouldn't be surprised if it comes back someday.

Re: Vaccinated Americans now may go without masks in most places, the CDC said

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Post by [deleted] »

KoftaBob wrote: post #18
sacomo wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is great. But still, vaccinated people shouldn't be told that they cannot get infected. There is this weird misconception floating around that just because we get vaccinated we are somehow immune to covid-19. That is a dangerous and misguided belief.

The CDC, FDA, governments, etc have said constantly that the vaccines have a 90-95% efficacy rate. Anyone who somehow interpreted that as "completely immune" has bad reading comprehension. This sounds like a strawman argument that you're making, I don't know where you're getting that there's a misconception of the vaccine equating to 100% immunity. No one said that.

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Re: Vaccinated Americans now may go without masks in most places, the CDC said

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Post by jasonlaramburu »

Miner49er wrote: post #32
jasonlaramburu wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are literally zero downsides to wearing a mask in public, and it's crazy that anyone would shame someone for it. In many Asian countries it is considered civilized and thoughtful to wear a mask when feeling ill to prevent the spread of disease. I too hope this becomes the norm in the US.

Some see downsides. There's a reason that in many places in the US it was illegal to wear a mask in public before COVID happened. Most of the time it is to prevent potential law breakers from being anonymous, I think. I don't support it, but I wouldn't be surprised if it comes back someday.

It seems pretty unlikely that someone who is already willing to commit a violent crime would care whether or not he violates a mask law.

Re: Vaccinated Americans now may go without masks in most places, the CDC said

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Post by anthonygd »

noodlesUK wrote: post #6

I’ve been in the US throughout this pandemic, and I’ve had to take it extremely seriously because of vulnerable people I live with. I’m glad to be vaccinated and for my life (and my family’s) to be returning to normal. I expect that I’ll continue wearing a mask from time to time even years from now if it becomes socially acceptable, because I like both the anonymity, and the wonders it does for my seasonal allergies.…

The problem you're describing is real and something that needs to be resolved.

I'm assuming six months ago you would have told someone to wear a mask because that's what science says. Now you're ignoring the science to make a statement. Was it lip-service and posturing 6 months ago or is it now? Do you value science or not?

You're telling the anti-mask/anti-vax people that yes it really was just bullshit and it was never really about science.

Re: Vaccinated Americans now may go without masks in most places, the CDC said

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Post by Miner49er »

jasonlaramburu wrote: post #34
Miner49er wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some see downsides. There's a reason that in many places in the US it was illegal to wear a mask in public before COVID happened. Most of the time it is to prevent potential law breakers from being anonymous, I think. I don't support it, but I wouldn't be surprised if it comes back someday.

It seems pretty unlikely that someone who is already willing to commit a violent crime would care whether or not he violates a mask law.

True, I guess maybe they were more to target groups who wore masks and were/are known for breaking laws. I think some were passed (and definitely at least proposed) to target antifa, and I believe some were also passed to target the KKK.

Re: Vaccinated Americans now may go without masks in most places, the CDC said

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Post by sacomo »

nradov wrote: post #28
sacomo wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally I will keep wearing a mask around other people until we eradicate it or find a 100% preventive vaccine. So decades for me.

Were you wearing a mask in 2019? Because influenza killed thousands of people that year, and we didn't have a 100% preventative vaccine.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2...

Re: Vaccinated Americans now may go without masks in most places, the CDC said

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Post by BurritoAlPastor »

jasonlaramburu wrote: post #31
noodlesUK wrote: post #6

I’ve been in the US throughout this pandemic, and I’ve had to take it extremely seriously because of vulnerable people I live with. I’m glad to be vaccinated and for my life (and my family’s) to be returning to normal. I expect that I’ll continue wearing a mask from time to time even years from now if it becomes socially acceptable, because I like both the anonymity, and the wonders it does for my seasonal allergies.…

There are literally zero downsides to wearing a mask in public, and it's crazy that anyone would shame someone for it. In many Asian countries it is considered civilized and thoughtful to wear a mask when feeling ill to prevent the spread of disease. I too hope this becomes the norm in the US.

“Literally zero downsides” is a bit of an exaggeration, don’t you think? Surely you’ll concede that they make your glasses fog up.

Re: Vaccinated Americans now may go without masks in most places, the CDC said

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Post by noodlesUK »

anthonygd wrote: post #35
noodlesUK wrote: post #6

I’ve been in the US throughout this pandemic, and I’ve had to take it extremely seriously because of vulnerable people I live with. I’m glad to be vaccinated and for my life (and my family’s) to be returning to normal. I expect that I’ll continue wearing a mask from time to time even years from now if it becomes socially acceptable, because I like both the anonymity, and the wonders it does for my seasonal allergies.…

The problem you're describing is real and something that needs to be resolved. I'm assuming six months ago you would have told someone to wear a mask because that's what science says. Now you're ignoring the science to make a statement. Was it lip-service and posturing 6 months ago or is it now? Do you value science or not? You're telling the anti-mask/anti-vax people that yes it really was just bullshit and it was n…

You’re absolutely right. Six months ago I would have said something like that (and indeed many months before even when the CDC was spewing the bullshit that started all this anti mask stuff). I probably wouldn’t have hassled someone I didn’t know, just avoided them altogether.

However, the difference is, by wearing a mask where it might not strictly be necessary, I am choosing to inconvenience myself in a way that does not harm another person in any way. Choosing not to wear a mask where it is necessary puts other people in danger, and risks the overall epidemiological health of the society around you (and in my jurisdiction was also illegal). That’s quite a big difference in my opinion.

Re: Vaccinated Americans now may go without masks in most places, the CDC said

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Post by abduhl »

jasonlaramburu wrote: post #31
noodlesUK wrote: post #6

I’ve been in the US throughout this pandemic, and I’ve had to take it extremely seriously because of vulnerable people I live with. I’m glad to be vaccinated and for my life (and my family’s) to be returning to normal. I expect that I’ll continue wearing a mask from time to time even years from now if it becomes socially acceptable, because I like both the anonymity, and the wonders it does for my seasonal allergies.…

There are literally zero downsides to wearing a mask in public, and it's crazy that anyone would shame someone for it. In many Asian countries it is considered civilized and thoughtful to wear a mask when feeling ill to prevent the spread of disease. I too hope this becomes the norm in the US.

You don't think that the continual dehumanization of people into creatures with eyes, hair, and without emotions is a downside to wearing a mask in public? A smile as you hold the elevator door for someone goes unseen; all the other person gets is a withering stare from behind a sterile surgeon's mask. A joke that's good enough to make someone grin but not laugh is now a joke that falls flat on its face. An inappropriate remark that is met with a frown or pressed lips is now emboldened with apparent silence.

Yeah, I think there is some downside to never showing your nose and mouth. Especially when you think of them as more than breathing holes.

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