I don't think that one can say that Diaspora owned the idea that we have different social circles/aspects.
But still sad that Diaspora might close their doors. They can take pride in the fact that their vision is being adopted.
Google+ "inspired" by diaspora?
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#32I remember viewing this presentation months ago, in which an ex-googler presents the idea behind social circles:
http://www.slideshare.net/padday/the-real-life-social-networ...
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#33Just yesterday I learned about http://project.friendika.com/ which looks like a nice distributed network too and maybe without the Diaspora troubles.
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#34No. Google+ has shipped.
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#35The iPod wasn't the first mp3 player.
Facebook wasn't the first social networking site.
Google wasn't the first search engine.
Windows/Mac/Unix weren't the first operating systems.
Taking ideas from competitors and improving upon them is a fundamental part of business. No one actually thinks that coming up with a product concept is the same as delivering a product that users actually want.
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Certainly a lot of hackers have done much more with much less." +1 insightful. At the risk of repeating myself, the Diaspora team had a great opportunity to do something more than put out rails code. With that money, they could have done the hard work of coordinating real world meetings with various existing projects to hash out federation issues, schema differences, etc., and been able to get dozens of indie social…
they could have done the hard work of coordinating real world meetings with various existing projects to hash out federation issues Actually, StatusNet did a great job with that, organizing the Federated Social Web Summit in Portland last summer. I was there (Appleseed), so was OneSocialWeb, Gnu Social, Diaspora. It was good times.
thanks for pointing that out.
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#37What's interesting to me here is the impact the right naming for a feature can have.
I think "circles" as in "circles of friends" would be intuitive to most users. Probably because the concept corresponds to how people already organise their social groups anyway.
An "aspect" on the other hand focuses not on the who, but on how you present your self. I think this would be much more obscure for most users to get used to even though the end effect is basically the same.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why is facebook "deeply flawed"? @1. you can do that on Facebook, too ... they even have "circles" there, too @2. facebook is the champion of playing nice with other sites, just look around you ... everything is facebook nowadays @3. facebook borrowed a lot and you can filter everything everywhere. So maybe their UI isn't as clean as Google+ and they lack a great video chat, but other than that, why should anyone swi…
I agree also. I also think we all need to appreciate the fact that 99% of the world uses Facebook BECAUSE it is a agnostic platform. I have a Gmail account - most of friends "lay persons" in the tech world - use Yahoo or Hotmail, and sure, some use Gmail. They check Facebook on their mobiles and website daily - they don't particularly care about [or even know really] the "wars of technology companies" Facebook works.…
Google+ will succeed because it's simpler. Everybody wants to control their data and have online relationships that mirror real ones in terms of context. You think mom's don't worry about who can see the pictures of their kids? Or non-technical professionals don't worry about whether or not it's safe to add your coworker to your friends list?
Facebook makes that process tedious. Google+ bakes it in to the foundations and at every step in an obvious way.
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#39I'm wondering is Diaspora can sue Google for this "inspiration".
Anyway, http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2714109 for google+ invitations.
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#40I've never been too bothered, as a user, when one product "borrows" a great feature from another, especially if they manage to deliver a better experience. I've had high hopes for Diaspora. Gave them cash when they were on Kickstarter. Tried hosting my own Diaspora server. Waited for the devs and the community to do something with the $200,000 they raised. Certainly a lot of hackers have done much more with much less…
Why is facebook "deeply flawed"? @1. you can do that on Facebook, too ... they even have "circles" there, too @2. facebook is the champion of playing nice with other sites, just look around you ... everything is facebook nowadays @3. facebook borrowed a lot and you can filter everything everywhere. So maybe their UI isn't as clean as Google+ and they lack a great video chat, but other than that, why should anyone swi…
They have "Circles" on Facebook that let you restrict status updates? If so, most users are ignorant of them. The most common Facebook complaint that Google+ has provoked among my friends is the need to keep their status stream safe for work, grandma, etc.
I know that Facebook Messages can be targeted to groups, but they aren't really the same thing. Messages aren't designed for sharing; they're designed for, well, messages.