Is the premise here that beyond beef et al. are trying to trick customers into thinking they are buying regular beef? A moment's thought reveals that to be utterly absurd. Their business model is entirely dependent on people buying their product specifically because it is plant-based. Seems like old-fashioned protection of a favored industry.
Texas lawmakers approve bill banning 'meat' & 'beef' on plant-based food labels
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Re: Texas lawmakers approve bill banning 'meat' & 'beef' on plant-based food labels
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They should be as should butter too. Terms like fat, oil or margarine could be used as well with those.
You're saying we should rename the popular nut spread (the one that pairs well with jelly) to something like "peanut margarine"?
Yes. Or "peanut spread", "peanut smooth", "peanut stuff". There are dozens of more honest options.
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#33Is the premise here that beyond beef et al. are trying to trick customers into thinking they are buying regular beef? A moment's thought reveals that to be utterly absurd. Their business model is entirely dependent on people buying their product specifically because it is plant-based. Seems like old-fashioned protection of a favored industry.
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#34Is the premise here that beyond beef et al. are trying to trick customers into thinking they are buying regular beef? A moment's thought reveals that to be utterly absurd. Their business model is entirely dependent on people buying their product specifically because it is plant-based. Seems like old-fashioned protection of a favored industry.
Is it fine to call a piece of beef "vegan" because the cow only ate crass and corn, and never ate fish meal an other food supplements made of animal?
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#35I agree with this. Make up your own new word for the new product. Tufu isn't "bean cheese". People don't need "to be fooled" in order to get them to try highly processed plant products. Truth in advertising and all that. If you're selling processed plants or insects, great, market it and label it as such. If it's yummy, people will lap it up.
Right… the primary motivation of Texas lawmakers is that they are concerned about people being fooled… I want to be able to buy non-dairy yogurt and non-dairy mayo. Not “yellow paste” or “white soft creamy desert”. There is nothing wrong with products adapting to new realities and offering alternatives under the same general name. These products are clearly labeled already. The only reason to introduce this legislati…
Nothing wrong with calling it plant protein.
Mayonnaise is just a dressing like thousand island, Russian, ranch and hundreds of others who acquired their own names.
Yogurt I'm mildly ok with since basically it just means coagulated milk and also includes the necessary bacteria.
Re: Texas lawmakers approve bill banning 'meat' & 'beef' on plant-based food labels
#36I agree with this. Make up your own new word for the new product. Tufu isn't "bean cheese". People don't need "to be fooled" in order to get them to try highly processed plant products. Truth in advertising and all that. If you're selling processed plants or insects, great, market it and label it as such. If it's yummy, people will lap it up.
Right… the primary motivation of Texas lawmakers is that they are concerned about people being fooled… I want to be able to buy non-dairy yogurt and non-dairy mayo. Not “yellow paste” or “white soft creamy desert”. There is nothing wrong with products adapting to new realities and offering alternatives under the same general name. These products are clearly labeled already. The only reason to introduce this legislati…
> I want to be able to buy non-dairy yogurt
no such thing exists.
Velveeta can't even be called “cheese spread” despite having more similarity to any reasonable definition of that term than any non-dairy simulant has to yogurt. If people want to sell and buy plant-based yogurt-style products, that’s fine, but sellers of sich goods shouldn’t expect to be allowed to call them “yogurt”.
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#38I don't think this is a big problem. A beyond meat burger could be marketed as a 'beyond burger'. I don't think people are that silly that they need 'meat' in the name to know it's a meat substitute.
But there are companies that have already built up brand recognition using these names. This regulation places an unfair burden on them.
In any case, if your premise that people are not silly is correct, surely they don't need to be protected from confusing animal meat with meat substitutes.
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#39They have a point. Almond milk is not milk, that is a fact, but by including the term “milk” it allows then to get into the dairy section of grocery stores, and piggyback on milk as a product. Same here with plant based food.
What a terrible loss for me as a person to be able to go to the store and buy a "milk" that doesn't come from a cow but that I can put on breakfast cereal and drink with my coffee.
Meanwhile I don't see Texas aggressively defending the truth that a tomato is really a fruit and shouldn't be placed with other vegetables in the store.
Re: Texas lawmakers approve bill banning 'meat' & 'beef' on plant-based food labels
#40They have a point. Almond milk is not milk, that is a fact, but by including the term “milk” it allows then to get into the dairy section of grocery stores, and piggyback on milk as a product. Same here with plant based food.
Eggs are not milk either, that is a fact, yet they are also found in the dairy section of grocery stores. Our government should put a stop to this un-American behavior.
Putting eggs in the dairy section is a pretty American thing though