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Re: Amazon Sidewalk

#31

I think that's great. Unless you have a shitty internet connection with data caps it should not be an issue. On a more fundamental note, I think it's pretty ridiculous that every apartment in the building I live in runs its own wifi network, screaming at the top of its lungs to be heard in the noise.

Should Amazon be paying for use of customer bandwidth?

Re: Amazon Sidewalk

#32

It's a real shame that human selfishness means everyone has to have their own mini WiFi point rather than all sharing. I wish the 2.4Ghz band had some kind of "at least half the bandwidth of any network connection over 2.4Ghz must be available for use by any member of the public, for free". That would effectively be the licensing cost for your use of the WiFi band - you use up bandwidth in 2.4Ghz, but provide for fre…

The problem is that when you share your internet with a neighbour partaking in illegal activities, you may get yourself in trouble.

Not true, see the link in my sibling comment.

Re: Amazon Sidewalk

#35
post #9

I wouldn't mind opening up even higher b/w wifi. I've got way more than needed so seed linux distros all day long anyway ...however if someone does something illegal with it that'll still trace back to my IP and police will kick down my door, correct?

> however if someone does something illegal with it that'll still trace back to my IP and police will kick down my door, correct? This is a big concern with all the major "public WIFI" systems like this one and others such as Comcast's Xfinity WiFi and it's pretty much never actually true. For actual Wi-Fi provided by an ISP, the public network will usually come out of a completely different IP (your modem will inter…

> Seems like all it allows is to talk to Amazon (using some proprietary protocol)

That seems mostly OK then...

Re: Amazon Sidewalk

#36

It's a real shame that human selfishness means everyone has to have their own mini WiFi point rather than all sharing. I wish the 2.4Ghz band had some kind of "at least half the bandwidth of any network connection over 2.4Ghz must be available for use by any member of the public, for free". That would effectively be the licensing cost for your use of the WiFi band - you use up bandwidth in 2.4Ghz, but provide for fre…

The problem is that when you share your internet with a neighbour partaking in illegal activities, you may get yourself in trouble.

That problem is of our own making by giving the government the power to assume IP Location == Probable cause.

That problem is easily solved (in the US at least) by enacting more stringent 4th amendment protections for people and more properly limiting the governments police powers. This should be done anyway regardless of the proposed suggestions about public wifi

Re: Amazon Sidewalk

#37
post #7

TBH the title is a bit misleading. Amazon plans to use your internet for API calls related to its devices, similar to Apple’s Find My network. I’m more curious about the location sharing bit.

sometimes I would love to see an A/B test on HN: swap Amazon and Apple here, call it "Find my Homepod" and see the reactions.

Sure. Same reasons “Jeffrey Dahmer invited me for dinner” hits differently than “Mum invited me for dinner”.

The two companies have a different track record on privacy.

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#38
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, having a bathroom in each apartment could also be seen as a total waste of space and water, just as wifi is, but there are good reasons why people prefer having their own reserved resources and privacy - in both cases.

You can have private networks and multiple access points within the same wifi channel.

Sure, but good luck explaining that to everyone in my apartment building.

Re: Amazon Sidewalk

#39
post #15

Please don’t support Amazon from creating another network-effect product that creates vendor lock-in, and privacy issues. Convenience should not be the end-all goal, as the ad blatantly states, but instead interoperability and open-protocols.

Convenience is way too alluring for the general public I am afraid. But I completely agree.

> Convenience is way too alluring for the general public

Despite being technically-savvy, and ready to hack away at systems for max configuration; I too prefer convenience for a lot of things. That’s the magic of modern life, you can save time on so many “complicated” things.

Disclaimer: I don’t use Amazon Echo specifically.

Re: Amazon Sidewalk

#40
post #7

TBH the title is a bit misleading. Amazon plans to use your internet for API calls related to its devices, similar to Apple’s Find My network. I’m more curious about the location sharing bit.

It's not limited to Amazon devices

>Device manufacturers interested in creating devices that work with Amazon Sidewalk can view more information on the Sidewalk Developer Console.

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