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Re: Chrome extension recommends local businesses while shopping on Amazon or eBay

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I don't think Bezos(or Gates, Musk, Zucker) reason in terms of holiday homes anymore. I'm absolutely sure they have a positive impact. They build spaceships, fight disease, and finance science. Whether the net outcome for humanity as a whole is better or worse with Amazon is highly debatable. By writing > like helping a little boy buy his team jersey or a little girl get dance lessons for example you appeal to feelin…

"They build spaceships, fight disease, and finance science." They do it not for humanity but to earn more money. Its always money, power, and fame at the end.

Absolutely. I saw that website were Bezos’ wealth was measured out in pixels. He could easily eradicate a disease, wipe out all student debt or something else you can dream of, but afaik he isn’t doing that.

Re: Chrome extension recommends local businesses while shopping on Amazon or eBay

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This is a really good idea! I love my small businesses but being coddled by the internet is so real, you get used to immediately finding exactly what you want. With local stores, you have to put in some work sometimes, and ghasp talk to real people, potentially a few, at different stores, to get what you need. It sounds like a lot written out like that, but the important bits are that the people you talk to, you lear…

> and ghasp talk to real people, potentially a few, at different stores, to get what you need.

That's really an issue: if you aren't the hard-boiled, super unemphatic negotiator type you'll likely buy the very first thing a salesperson has invested face-minutes in, if it just gets the easy 80% of requirements/desires right. "Thanks for your time, but I'll go see if there's another offer that is maybe 3% better or 2% cheaper" isn't something that feels good to all people. The asynchronous experience of online shopping (and before that: mailorder) is a huge enabler to people who aren't the haggler type. And because the haggling mindset is a learned skill, I'm afraid that it will only get worse the less people grow up shopping face to face. To future generations, every shopping experience that isn't online or at least highly formulaic self-service like in a supermarket will feel like the haggle scene from Life Of Brian (and just as alien as the one after that).

But obviously a total amazonisation of all buying would be terrible nonetheless. What I'd love to see: a site like those price comparison directories but not so much focused on cheapest but on local availability. Current stock, proximity, opening hours and price, they are all important.

Actually I should have gotten my ass up and looked for funding years ago, or at least part-timing it on the side (I'm not the haggle type, right?). It would all hinge of course on integration interfaces with whatever systems local dealers already use for managing stock, because those claims world need to be reliable or else it would all be futile.

Re: Chrome extension recommends local businesses while shopping on Amazon or eBay

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post #15

I can see the reasoning behind this. People don't want to help Bezos get another holiday home; they would rather funnel money into local businesses for obvious reasons (like helping a little boy buy his team jersey or a little girl get dance lessons for example). One caveat to the local alternatives is the friction involved if it's an e-commerce store where users have to register their details. Most will happily regi…

I used to default to Amazon because of this. But nowadays many shops don't need an account anymore, the browser can autofill that data and credit cards with 3d secure (basically 2fa) seem safe enough. Finding those shops to me is now the "hardest" part.

It may take just a minute to enter your contact and payment info, but then it takes half an hour to figure out their returns policy, shipping fees and delivery windows.

I buy a lot more from tiny businesses if they operate on top of Amazon's platform.

Re: Chrome extension recommends local businesses while shopping on Amazon or eBay

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post #16

This is a really good idea! I love my small businesses but being coddled by the internet is so real, you get used to immediately finding exactly what you want. With local stores, you have to put in some work sometimes, and ghasp talk to real people, potentially a few, at different stores, to get what you need. It sounds like a lot written out like that, but the important bits are that the people you talk to, you lear…

Last weekend, I went looking for a particular kind of garment. I wasn't hopeful, but I thought I would give local shops a chance. I did it by going around, looking in various local stores, and talking to people. I did this in four or so different spots. I spent probably three to four hours at it. After that process, I was no closer to the garment I sought than I had been when I woke up. What I had learned from my eff…

I guess it really depends on what you're looking for. If you're buying a book online, it might be worth going to a local bookstore and checking out the other books on the same shelf. You might find a better book (by being able to skim it quickly), or you might come across another book about a hobby you've been wanting to learn more about along the way.

Visiting physical stores allows for "happy accidents" that wouldn't have occurred while shopping online. Targeted ads (or "customers who bought A also bought B") can help, but they seem tuned to maximize profits, not for inspiring new ideas.

Re: Chrome extension recommends local businesses while shopping on Amazon or eBay

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I think I’m the only person who considers online shopping less convenient than just going to a local store and buying it. In person you just walk or drive over to the store, select the item, pay, and go home with the correct product. Online I have to turn on my computer or open an app. Type in a bunch of stuff, Search around, click cookie consent buttons, avoid newsletters, log in, enter your address, put in your cre…

> Type in a bunch of stuff, Search around, click cookie consent buttons, avoid newsletters, log in, enter your address, put in your credit card, etc.

This is the reason why so many stick with Amazon. You gave them your data already and the only thing remaining are the dark patterns which wants to sell you prime but you probably have that already too so you don't have to wait 2 days.

Also: their computer/phone/tablet is on already.

I honestly buy a lot online because it is convenient. I let it send to my workplace and I don't have to go to the city wasting the few hours that I have left of my day.

There are things though I need to go out to shop. Cloths and food and I can't remember a single trip I enjoyed. I need to look in several shops before I find proper and fitting cloths (I'm tall). If sices would be a true standard I could rely on, this would be the next thing I'd do online. Groceries means shopping in supermarkets which are always too full and I need a parking spot since I got to take a car there because I'm doing it once a week only. I tried doing it through Amazon and it failed spectacularly. It never arrived but they only they told me at 9PM...it was Saturday and there are not many shops open at that time here in Germany.

Re: Chrome extension recommends local businesses while shopping on Amazon or eBay

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I’d be happy to support local merchants, but they have to get the overall value proposition somewhat competitive. For the most part, they aren’t. Maybe it’s pricing, selection, policies, hours of operation, or some combination, but other than grocers and large chains, I’m not even sure they’re trying.

Amazon is winning by serving the customers. Local shops will continue to have a hard time if the primary value prop is “we’re more expensive and not as good, but we’re your neighbor, so you owe us!”

I try every so often to use a local shop. Maybe I need a common appliance, lawn mower, or small engine part. If they have it on-hand, I’ll pay 5x the online price to get the job done today. I can only recall one time where that worked. “We can get it for you” only to find out that means a week and 4x the online price. “No thanks; I don’t want to be a bother...”

Our dishwasher door broke last Thursday; I fixed it in 30 minutes that Saturday afternoon with a $30 part I ordered on Thursday. Don’t even know how long it would take to setup a $150-200 repair appointment.

Re: Chrome extension recommends local businesses while shopping on Amazon or eBay

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post #29

I think I’m the only person who considers online shopping less convenient than just going to a local store and buying it. In person you just walk or drive over to the store, select the item, pay, and go home with the correct product. Online I have to turn on my computer or open an app. Type in a bunch of stuff, Search around, click cookie consent buttons, avoid newsletters, log in, enter your address, put in your cre…

Seems to be more of an issue with your situation than in general. I've never had to sync up with the mailman, they just drop the package downstairs in my building (I live in a city). Same with UPS, FedEx and so on although sometimes those need to redeliver the next day. I go to amazon, order the item and then pick it up next time I'm downstairs. So much faster than checking the weather in an app, putting on appropriate outdoor clothes, going to a store, browsing their aisles for where they dumped the thing, waiting in line to checkout and so on. It's the difference between 2 minutes and 30 minutes of my time.
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