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WakeMate 2.0 - For Real, This Time.

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Re: WakeMate 2.0 - For Real, This Time.

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Post by flexd »

pkaler wrote: post #10

I've been using Sleep Cycle for the last year or so. http://mdlabs.se/sleepcycle/ I'm not sure if purchasing a $60 wrist band is that much better than spending $0.99 on an iPhone App that just uses the phone's accelerometer.

That looks like a good way of doing it as well but I'm not all that positive to having my phone in bed with me.

I occasionally move around quite a bit during sleep and I'm sure others do as well, I don't think my phone would survive that long if we had to share a bed.

Re: WakeMate 2.0 - For Real, This Time.

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Post by borism »

flexd wrote: post #31
pkaler wrote: post #10

I've been using Sleep Cycle for the last year or so. http://mdlabs.se/sleepcycle/ I'm not sure if purchasing a $60 wrist band is that much better than spending $0.99 on an iPhone App that just uses the phone's accelerometer.

That looks like a good way of doing it as well but I'm not all that positive to having my phone in bed with me. I occasionally move around quite a bit during sleep and I'm sure others do as well, I don't think my phone would survive that long if we had to share a bed.

also wouldn't probably work well if you share your bed with another person...

Re: WakeMate 2.0 - For Real, This Time.

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Post by nater »

est wrote: post #15
2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have been using Sleep Cycle too. Most the most part, yes, it does wake me up less cranky. You still need to allow for enough sleep though. If I only get ~6 hours of sleep. It wakes me up at an appropriate time - I feel better - but I am still tired - and thus crankier than usual.

The reviews on iTunes store says it's faking data and graph http://itunes.apple.com/app/sleep-cycle-alarm-clock/id320606...

I was somewhat skeptical after reading some of the reviews, but after using the app for a couple of days I was satisfied that they're not faking data. I tend to wake up easily and have been able to match occasions when I wake up to the graphs.

I've been using the app for a couple of months and I feel that I am groggy less often when I wake up (though this could be expectation bias). It seems to work much better when I am sleeping alone I or my partner are traveling, though maybe this just means I need to buy a bigger bed.

Re: WakeMate 2.0 - For Real, This Time.

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Post by nater »

tudorachim wrote: post #29
underwater wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The creators countered by saying those reviewers were testing on uncalibrated phones. The app normalizes the movements so even if it detects only very small movements it will still render a graph with full range of movement. I don't know if this is true but I saw in their changelog http://mdlabs.se/sleepcycle/changelog-v3.0.html that they "removed "dreaming" from graph legend we've done a lot of research around this…

If they can't detect when you're not in REM sleep and wake you up at that point, what's the point of the device?

As I understand it, grogginess is associated with waking from deep sleep (no movement), not REM sleep.

Re: WakeMate 2.0 - For Real, This Time.

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Post by gsharma »

borism wrote: post #32
flexd wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That looks like a good way of doing it as well but I'm not all that positive to having my phone in bed with me. I occasionally move around quite a bit during sleep and I'm sure others do as well, I don't think my phone would survive that long if we had to share a bed.

also wouldn't probably work well if you share your bed with another person...

I tested it (2 minutes or so) and it seems to work OK with other person moving on the bed. According to them, your body stops the motion created by the other person.

Re: WakeMate 2.0 - For Real, This Time.

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Post by gsharma »

evan_ wrote: post #12
pkaler wrote: post #10

I've been using Sleep Cycle for the last year or so. http://mdlabs.se/sleepcycle/ I'm not sure if purchasing a $60 wrist band is that much better than spending $0.99 on an iPhone App that just uses the phone's accelerometer.

does it work?

I have been using the app for about a month now and it works for me. Usually, I wake up and expect the alarm than other way around.

Re: WakeMate 2.0 - For Real, This Time.

#37

Post by lobster_johnson »

fabiandesimone wrote: post #30

To me my WM is more than to just wake up less groggy. Using tags I'm trying to identify anything that would help me sleep better. This is where I think WM is missing out: I see a leader board but no way to get tips or compare notes (tags?) with other users (specially those in the leaderboard that seem to be sleeping like freaking kings) I would love to figure out how to get a 90+ night when I'm currently in the low 6…

Maybe I'm missing something, but what on earth would you compare notes about?

"Slept a bit rough last night, think I was a bit stressed out after that deadline."

"Woke up hot and worn out, maybe I should get an A/C unit."

"Fit as a fiddle this morning, must be that cheese I ate before bed I guess!"

I don't get it. People are different. Some sleep well and are able to adjust to regular schedules, some are the opposite; there's no magic bullet, and any specific trick will not necessarily work on a different person.

If you ask people who sleep well what the trick is, I suspect you will invariably discover that they went to bed early, before they got really tired, that they avoided coffeine drinks, stress, exercise, TV etc. in the hours before bedtime, and have learned to eliminate as many external (eg., lighting) or internal (sleep apnea) sources of discomfort as possible.

All pretty obvious stuff, and nothing, I think, that a good GP wouldn't be able to steer you towards.

Re: WakeMate 2.0 - For Real, This Time.

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Post by swaits »

swaits wrote: post #9

Let me tell you my WakeMate story. Its publication has been long overdue. It's a bit long, so please bear with me... I pre-ordered. All excited. I love "life hacks", and this is right up my alley. Even encouraged several friends to jump in on the WakeMate wagon! It finally arrived, and for the most part it worked. The app was buggy at first (iOS), but they did eventually get some updates approved that made things bet…

Update: About 24 hours after I posted this I received a full refund for my Wakemate along with an apologetic email. No consideration was made for the postage I paid to send their defective products back to them. Oh well. For now, I'm just happy to put this ugly scene behind me.
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