Damn. Just leave the farmer alone.
Belgian farmer accidentally moves French border
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Re: Belgian farmer accidentally moves French border
#32This is funny.
Even funnier are the so-called line houses along the USA/Canada border: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_house
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#34A neighbor once moved the pegs marking our block a few meters so that he could move (and claim) the neutral strip. The most irritating thing, is that he more or less got away with it because he was old and persistent. In fact, he gradually built infrastructure on it, despite hundreds of complaints to the local council and authorities. In the end the council couldn't come up with a good way to settle the dispute, so t…
This all goes well just until it goes horribly wrong and you’re forced to demolish everything you built.
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#35This made me wonder...are (most) of the (undisputed) borders of the world actually stored somewhere? Or are some stones and posts still the "official" borders?
I'm not really sure how would one really mark this with stones... https://goo.gl/maps/Nn8ygXHJKkfHGFTs9
Or this one, also Belgium: https://www.google.com/maps/@51.4408275,4.9469359,14.35z
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#36> A local history enthusiast was walking in the forest when he noticed the stone marking the boundary between the two countries had moved 2.29m (7.5ft). How do you even measure that effectively? Aren’t the stones more than hundreds of meters away from each other? edit: for example, can I do that as well with minimal equipment (e.g. with just a phone)?
GPS.
The border was likely digitized a decade or two ago. Someone noticed the stone didn't match the database.
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#37This made me wonder...are (most) of the (undisputed) borders of the world actually stored somewhere? Or are some stones and posts still the "official" borders?
They're stored in law. Treaties define borders in (seemingly) unambiguous terms. Meridians, river beds and so. Problems arise when river beds move and everything becomes extremely ambiguous. In the worst case scenario you've got borders defined by older borders of poorly documented feudal holdings and it's up in the wind where the actual border ought to be. So states have to negotiate to redefine them in modern terms…
The ground itself can move over 5 cm a year due to tectonics.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Although we don't officially agree what those actual borders are everywhere: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olivenza#Claims_of_sovereignty
We both agree on the border there, see the treaty of vienna. The problem is that spain doesn't do what they agreed to do.
I wonder when this we be brought to light, specially when we have a pressing matter with Spain that's also being avoided, yet it could be extremely damaging to Portugal... I'm talking about the management of Tejo river.
The re routing Spain is doing is contributing to the destruction of a massive portion of Portugal ecosystems.
Re: Belgian farmer accidentally moves French border
#39A neighbor once moved the pegs marking our block a few meters so that he could move (and claim) the neutral strip. The most irritating thing, is that he more or less got away with it because he was old and persistent. In fact, he gradually built infrastructure on it, despite hundreds of complaints to the local council and authorities. In the end the council couldn't come up with a good way to settle the dispute, so t…
I've heard many stories of property lines being moved simply by people moving a fence, mowing the grass, or building a structure. If no one has said anything in several years (exactly how many varies by jurisdiction, of course), the assumed property line can often become the legal property line.
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#40I wish that one day all borders in the world were like this.
Yes, let a hundred such farmers do this and claim several square kilometres of territory. After all this farmer did and got away scot-free. Thus more people can do it.
Frankly, if he doesn't get rapped on the knuckles it's a guarantee that other folks will try the same thing.
Borders should be changed via treaty and diplomacy not by some un-educated moron deciding to take matters into his own hands. That only encourages border conflicts.