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Facebook approves alcohol, vaping and gambling ads targeting 13-17 year olds

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Re: Facebook approves alcohol, vaping and gambling ads targeting 13-17 year olds

#31

Shouldn’t they be blaming the advertisers instead of Facebook? Facebook has too many things to look at from pornography, violence, cornona virus, election integrity and now even this?

The advertisements were never shown- they were just added to their internal systems and were (thought to be) approved.

>The findings were revealed in a report, released today, by lobby group Reset Australia — the local arm of a global initiative working to "counter digital threats to democracy".

Re: Facebook approves alcohol, vaping and gambling ads targeting 13-17 year olds

#32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cannabis is illegal at a federal level.

So is alcohol under 21? Edit: looks like I learned something; thanks!

aksuhally...

https://drinkingage.procon.org/states-that-allow-underage-un...

turns out the laws are a little complicated.

Re: Facebook approves alcohol, vaping and gambling ads targeting 13-17 year olds

#33
post #14

I wonder if this is automated. Somebody wants to advertise _something_ to a demographic and Facebook doesn't have any sort of checks in place; or, they do have checks, but the ads lie about it and Facebook doesn't validate it. I wonder how many requests for advertising to a given group they have. I imagine it's a scary high number.

It's absolutely automated, but it begs the question, should it be allowed to be, particularly when dealing with minors? It seems crazy this case slipped through to exist when Facebook has been around for so long.

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#34

I guess I just don't really care if teenagers are doing the same things I did as a teenager.

My father grew up when it was incredibly common in high school to smoke a lot of cigarettes. Many in his class have since died of lung cancer. In my high school, vapes are the most dangerous thing I've seen. Generally, you hope the next generation grows up a little bit better than the previous one. I think alcohol/vaping/gambling ads are a net negative when advertised to minors, causing addiction in a lot of cases.

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Re: Facebook approves alcohol, vaping and gambling ads targeting 13-17 year olds

#35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

True, it's not malicious intent; if facebook could squeeze every cent out of their platform while advertising scented candles, they certainly would. It's the indifference that matters though.

Not sure intent is relevant. Does intent matter when the system is so huge and no single person probably understands or directs it? The Purpose Of A System Is What It Does [1]. 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_purpose_of_a_system_is_wha...

I don't buy that philosophy for short-lived things that haven't had a chance to be acted upon.

If a system is in place and continues to do a thing after concerns are brought up, then absolutely, that's an argument that can be made; but, for each new class of mistake a system makes, you can't just say that that's what it was designed to do.

It's unfair to the designers, the people in the know, etc. You'll never win people over by telling them the thing they attempted to create, with many years of sweat and tears, was _designed_ to do something nefarious if it wasn't.

If they don't change after evidence to the contrary, then this can be brought up; but before then, it's inappropriate.

Re: Facebook approves alcohol, vaping and gambling ads targeting 13-17 year olds

#36
post #8

My prediction: there will never be a bottom for facebook.

Companies - specifically large public for-profit companies - are amoral entities solely concerned with maximizing their profits. That Facebook acts seemingly without any morals isn't all that surprising.

Re: Facebook approves alcohol, vaping and gambling ads targeting 13-17 year olds

#37
Pass laws to make it illegal to advertise to people under 18.

We somehow expect FB to arbitrate but that’s just not possible. It isn’t even their fault in the end - they operate within legal boundaries.

We should make it unlawful to advertise to people under 18 and prosecute offenders, harshly.

Re: Facebook approves alcohol, vaping and gambling ads targeting 13-17 year olds

#38
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's absolutely automated, but it begs the question, should it be allowed to be, particularly when dealing with minors? It seems crazy this case slipped through to exist when Facebook has been around for so long.

The associated comments that are downvoted seem to imply that Facebook intended for this to happen and it wasn't just automation and bureaucracy. Should it be stopped? If it violates the law, absolutely; but, we should recognize it for what it is, not some nefarious, evil plot to harm the young of multiple nations.

>but, we should recognize it for what it is, not some nefarious, evil plot to harm the young of multiple nations.

no, it's much worse. Nefarious evil plotters at least need to sleep and eat and eventually they might grow tired of their evil scheming. This is much more miserable, this is simply the invisible hand doing its job and harming the young of multiple nations with a ruthless efficiency and precision that makes most comic super-villains look sloppy in comparison

Re: Facebook approves alcohol, vaping and gambling ads targeting 13-17 year olds

#39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cannabis is illegal at a federal level.

So is alcohol under 21? Edit: looks like I learned something; thanks!

Drinking under 21 isn't illegal federally:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/23/158

It's just that if your state doesn't set their drinking age to a minimum of 21, they'll lose a big chunk of federal highway funding.

Re: Facebook approves alcohol, vaping and gambling ads targeting 13-17 year olds

#40
post #37

Pass laws to make it illegal to advertise to people under 18. We somehow expect FB to arbitrate but that’s just not possible. It isn’t even their fault in the end - they operate within legal boundaries. We should make it unlawful to advertise to people under 18 and prosecute offenders, harshly.

How in the hell can you expect advertisement in the 21st century to not reach minors? We might as well legislate that all minors must wear blindfolds at all times, or be blinded as they’re born.
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