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Fedora Linux 34 is officially here

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Re: Fedora Linux 34 is officially here

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Post by dralley »

hs86 wrote: post #29

They managed to increase the distance the mouse cursor has to travel to open the app drawer. The worst case would be to move the cursor to the upper left and then to the bottom right. Does Red Hat monitor the mouse travel distance to measure "employee productivity," or how did they end up with this design?

> Does Red Hat monitor the mouse travel distance to measure "employee productivity," or how did they end up with this design?

No, as far as I can tell the rationale is just "more familiar to MacOS and Windows users".

Of course, the rationale changes every couple of years, because it's not like Gnome 3 was trying to be a "familiar" design.

Oh well, I've been using extensions to override Gnome's silly decisions forever anyway. As long as they don't take that away...

Re: Fedora Linux 34 is officially here

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Post by [deleted] »

codecalec wrote: post #13

I have been running the beta in my laptop perfectly and the multi-touch gestures added in Gnome 40 makes it the best laptop DE for me. When I tried to install on my desktop, Nvidia drivers made the experience a nightmare. Nvidia does make free distros a pain.

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Re: Fedora Linux 34 is officially here

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Post by addicted »

rubyist5eva wrote: post #23
mikevm wrote: post #14

I've been an Ubuntu user for ages, any reasons to switch to Fedora?

Vanilla gnome, more up-to-date software, package management with dnf is superior than apt. You don't have to have snaps shoved down your throat (but you can still use them if you like). Fedora is a "makers" distro. Every big innovation in Linux has happened in Fedora first.

For me, not being forced into snaps, which for many apps that are forced upon us through snaps makes them remarkably slow, is enough reason to pick Fedora over Ubuntu for a fresh install.

But whether it’s a good enough reason to switch an existing system depends on how much trouble one is having with these issues in their current system.

Re: Fedora Linux 34 is officially here

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Post by haik90 »

mxuribe wrote: post #11
haik90 wrote: post #5

just upgrade from Fedora 32 to Fedora 34. the upgrade really smooth, less than 1 hour.

Interesting...my personal daily driver is on fedora 32,and i was going to go to fedora 33 first...but it seems that you skipped 33? If so, curious why? Was it a sort of "who cares, let's do it", or is there a reason that i should skip 33, etc.??

I keep using F32 because it still supported until F34 out and skip F33 because too lazy, nothing technical.

Just do it and let see what happen :). Make sure 100% your backup working

Re: Fedora Linux 34 is officially here

#35

Post by throwaway74737 »

viraptor wrote: post #4

While pipewire still needs a lot of work and some people will see regressions in their workflow, this change is so much better than the pulseaudio disaster. It already enables things like more reasonable Bluetooth access, BT codec/profile switching, close to real-time audio, etc. With updated pipewire you can run jack applications like guitarix and ardour and they just work. With pipewire updated from copr repositori…

In 34, I've seen a problem with Ardour accessing the JACK API in Pipewire. Apparently one of the API calls is not implemented, which makes Ardour crash from time to time. Sadly, this means I am not comfortable using a completely free/open-source audio production platform yet.

Re: Fedora Linux 34 is officially here

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Post by dralley »

mikevm wrote: post #14

I've been an Ubuntu user for ages, any reasons to switch to Fedora?

Fedora gets kernel and Mesa (graphics driver) updates roughly as fast as Arch, whereas IIRC Ubuntu freezes them for a release, or at least doesn't update them quickly.

That can also be a downside though, if you're using proprietary hardware drivers.

No "snap" pollution in the home directory.

Package naming conventions are better, IMO (this is a small thing to be fair, normally you'd just do a search, but the names are much more consistent and guessable on Fedora/Red Hat based distros in my experience)

Re: Fedora Linux 34 is officially here

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Post by gtirloni »

dralley wrote: post #31
hs86 wrote: post #29

They managed to increase the distance the mouse cursor has to travel to open the app drawer. The worst case would be to move the cursor to the upper left and then to the bottom right. Does Red Hat monitor the mouse travel distance to measure "employee productivity," or how did they end up with this design?

> Does Red Hat monitor the mouse travel distance to measure "employee productivity," or how did they end up with this design? No, as far as I can tell the rationale is just "more familiar to MacOS and Windows users". Of course, the rationale changes every couple of years, because it's not like Gnome 3 was trying to be a "familiar" design. Oh well, I've been using extensions to override Gnome's silly decisions forever…

With GNOME 40, I gave up and moved to XFCE. It's a much saner environment.

The travel distance they introduced is just too annoying.

Re: Fedora Linux 34 is officially here

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Post by gnome_mouse »

gtirloni wrote: post #37
dralley wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Does Red Hat monitor the mouse travel distance to measure "employee productivity," or how did they end up with this design? No, as far as I can tell the rationale is just "more familiar to MacOS and Windows users". Of course, the rationale changes every couple of years, because it's not like Gnome 3 was trying to be a "familiar" design. Oh well, I've been using extensions to override Gnome's silly decisions forever…

With GNOME 40, I gave up and moved to XFCE. It's a much saner environment. The travel distance they introduced is just too annoying.

You guys are using the mouse? I smack Super and type the first couple letters of the application I want opened or brought to the front and hit enter

Why are you even using the mouse in the activities overlay

Re: Fedora Linux 34 is officially here

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Post by gnome_mouse »

dralley wrote: post #36
mikevm wrote: post #14

I've been an Ubuntu user for ages, any reasons to switch to Fedora?

Fedora gets kernel and Mesa (graphics driver) updates roughly as fast as Arch, whereas IIRC Ubuntu freezes them for a release, or at least doesn't update them quickly. That can also be a downside though, if you're using proprietary hardware drivers. No "snap" pollution in the home directory. Package naming conventions are better, IMO (this is a small thing to be fair, normally you'd just do a search, but the names ar…

If you can use DKMS for your proprietary drivers then the downsides of the quick updates go away, in my experience

Re: Fedora Linux 34 is officially here

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Post by dralley »

gnome_mouse wrote: post #38
gtirloni wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With GNOME 40, I gave up and moved to XFCE. It's a much saner environment. The travel distance they introduced is just too annoying.

You guys are using the mouse? I smack Super and type the first couple letters of the application I want opened or brought to the front and hit enter Why are you even using the mouse in the activities overlay

Why create a new account just for this one comment?

Anyway, it's often legitimately faster to use the mouse with the Dash to Dock extension. It blows my mind that it's not the default behavior of the dock.

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