Roku is similarly evil towards smaller apps, like demanding a cut of app revenue after the app gets a large user base.
Roku says it may lose YouTube TV app after Google made anti-competitive demands
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#32> Roku alleges Google has asked it to favor YouTube music results from voice commands made on the Roku remote while the YouTube app is open, even if the user's music preference is set to default to another music app, like Pandora. > Roku says Google has threatened to require Roku to use certain chip sets or memory cards that would force Roku to increase the price of its hardware product, which competes directly with…
I'm not quite ready to take out the pitchforks... > Roku says Google has threatened to require Roku to use certain chip sets or memory cards that would force Roku to increase the price of its hardware product, which competes directly with Google's Chromecast. This could simply mean Google is requiring chips with hardware VP9 support > Roku alleges Google has asked it to favor YouTube music results from voice commands…
I'll take your pitchfork and brandish it at least ...
>>This could simply mean Google is requiring chips with hardware VP9 support
Shouldn't we expect reasonable backward-compatibility?
Your second point seems valid.
To be honest though ... youtube is the weak link in most of my set ups. Can't access ad-based youtube via Sonos (and no, I won't pay for premium because of how I feel about Google right now), scrapes here with Roku, etc.
Google is slowly becoming obsolete in my house.
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Roku alleges Google has asked it to favor YouTube music results from voice commands made on the Roku remote while the YouTube app is open, even if the user's music preference is set to default to another music app, like Pandora. That's the behavior I would expect from a full screen app. ie, if I issue a command in a full screen app for the command to be interpreted in the context of that app.
That's not at all how voice assists are meant to work. Voice icon in cars/remotes are all meant to provide answers or take commands irrespective of what's happening on that device or other devices they control.
Quite the opposite, context is a critical aspect voice assistants currently lack.
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#34I'm surprised this is the first time someone tried to push their weight and try and get what they want. But it does seem to be a baseless claim, we have no idea actually what was asked. I think it's a little too early to jump onboard any side.
Roku is not a completely innocent content portal. Roku notably sells buttons on its remotes tied to services you may not even use. A consumer friendly remote would have configurable buttons, so they’re not against favoriting certain apps over others. Within Roku itself you’ll get sidebar ads for certain video services. Roku is happy to prioritize your app but only if you pay for it.
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#35Re: Roku says it may lose YouTube TV app after Google made anti-competitive demands
#36I've never used Roku voice commands. Is it unambiguous that a command is for music? Or "Stevie Wonder interview" and "Stevie Wonder Superstition" be interchangeable, with the first going to a Youtube vid and the second playing in Pandora?
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#37Next they will ask to be automatically loaded during startup.
Get rid of the youtube app. It's low quality videos with ads when I use roku I use it for a better experience.
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#38So this is for the YoutubeTV and not the Youtube app right?
Yes, that's correct. Also, separately, Google is sunsetting the "Google Play Movies & TV app" and folding that into the YouTube (not YouTubeTV) app.
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#39> Roku alleges Google has asked it to favor YouTube music results from voice commands made on the Roku remote while the YouTube app is open, even if the user's music preference is set to default to another music app, like Pandora. > Roku says Google has threatened to require Roku to use certain chip sets or memory cards that would force Roku to increase the price of its hardware product, which competes directly with…
I'm not quite ready to take out the pitchforks... > Roku says Google has threatened to require Roku to use certain chip sets or memory cards that would force Roku to increase the price of its hardware product, which competes directly with Google's Chromecast. This could simply mean Google is requiring chips with hardware VP9 support > Roku alleges Google has asked it to favor YouTube music results from voice commands…
Agree on the second one, but why tf should Google force them to support vp9? If they want to save some money there to stay competitive it's none of Google's business.
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#40I have always used a Roku for TV streaming, but things like this are making it more difficult. Something similar happened with Amazon and the Twitch app for Roku. Amazon obviously wants you to use a Fire product to access Twitch, and they completely removed support for the Twitch app for Roku. Even the unofficial Twitch app shut down shortly after this, leaving no reasonable way to access Twitch content from a Roku.…
I replaced my roku with an nvidia shield over the twitch issue.