Storj.io for the win. Move over Google!
although not a complete cloud solution, I just read the "how it works section" and it is quite cool. price is awesome too.
Why I distrust Google Cloud more than than AWS or Azure
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Re: Why I distrust Google Cloud more than than AWS or Azure
#32What left a bad taste in my mouth is any quota increase getting rejected unless you got on a phone call with sales and listened to an upsell speech. I'm trying to give you money and you're putting roadblocks in front of me.
My experience has been very different: I update the quota in the console and it's approved very quickly.
Yeah this happened to me recently and it was obnoxious
Re: Why I distrust Google Cloud more than than AWS or Azure
#33The only reason I didn't try Google cloud is payment. I can't even run a couple of VM, some test db without using the credit card. This means that if someone hacks me, if the documentation isn't clear enough or if I make a mistake I will fully pay for it (and immediately). This is incredibly haunting for beginners and people that cannot afford such scenarios. With AWS at least I can use a prepaid card: if something b…
This seems like a particularly strange reason to not try their service and to me is akin to saying "I won't use CarRentalCompany because they require a credit card. What if I'm new to driving and total the car by wrapping it around a tree?"
If anything, this is just AWS being overly generous and forgiving.
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#34To be honest, since I've heard literally all of these stories/anecdotes, and in some cases have been affected by them, and yet there is still nothing new in this article to rehash, it actually makes me feel good having gone with GCP.
I certainly have felt what I thought were missteps by GCP in the past, but over the past couple years have been an extremely happy customer, and I still feel I've architected my applications so that if worse came to worse I could migrate off GCP if needed.
Re: Why I distrust Google Cloud more than than AWS or Azure
#35Look where the cash cows are. For MS and Amazon, their cloud platforms are top of mind for senior management. Even more so with Amazon's new CEO having been with AWS since inception.
For Google, anything not driving search and ads is a side show. Does anyone think Sundar's staying up at night worrying about Asian egress pricing when he's about to spend the next day being accused by performatively outraged senators about censorship and election influcence?
Re: Why I distrust Google Cloud more than than AWS or Azure
#36I see the Google hate on HN is strong enough that an article that just regurgitates the contents of a few articles and blog posts can be upvoted to #1 in short order.
They made that bed... I’m sure there are more original stories to be told, people just upvote based on their personal experience
Re: Why I distrust Google Cloud more than than AWS or Azure
#37I'm not sure what the author (or Yegge, for that matter) expect a good timeframe to be for deprecating services. Anecdotally, Google announced the changeover of Cloud logging API versions in October of 2016, with a 5-month ramp (October to March) to switch from the v1 beta API to the v2 beta API. Five months is nearly two quarters, which is quite a long window for a beta API IMHO. That having been said, Google's habi…
I'd want 5 years at the minimum?
Giant changes like that are worth capturing in long term planning processes, and then you need time to get ramped up on the new stack, design and implement the replacements, run all your backfills, and also, still have a couple years to figure out the parts that don't migrate nicely. With enough time available, you also don't have to drop actual business related improvements, even if your progress slows down a bit
Re: Why I distrust Google Cloud more than than AWS or Azure
#38I'm one of those "you'll get my baremetal and systemd out of my dead cold hands", kind of guy. But I have reasonable exposure to both AWS and GC and I can say that, by far, Google Cloud is easier to reason about. As a consequence, it's much harder to misconfigure. The 2 large AWS deploys I've seen have, at best, had billing issues no one really understood (incl AWS), and at worse, security issues. Complaining that ma…
I used to think the problem with AWS was pricing and hidden costs etc. But in reality it’s because companies just let developers run wild without restriction on AWS and end up over provisioning or pulling in expensive services to solve dead simple problems.
The issue is definitely not AWS. It’s always the developers. You really need a gate keeper to AWS to question why you need a service and ask for a price estimate on cost and usage.
Re: Why I distrust Google Cloud more than than AWS or Azure
#39What left a bad taste in my mouth is any quota increase getting rejected unless you got on a phone call with sales and listened to an upsell speech. I'm trying to give you money and you're putting roadblocks in front of me.
I don't know why all the cloud companies make you jump through so many hoops to get more quota - but Google has consistently been the fastest for me. Fill out some random Google Docs form (why does it have to be so dodgy?), receive quota within 24 hours. Contrast: Microsoft - flat out refused me more quota despite spending 10k/mo with them. Required me to convert to invoice billing, and then wanted a bunch of proof o…
There are several valid reason to do this - concerns about customer solvency and making sure you aint gonna crash tbheir house of cards architectures to name a few. The bigger problem is when those requests get stuck in the bureaucracy hell and all three major cloud provider companies are known to be extremely bureaucratic
Re: Why I distrust Google Cloud more than than AWS or Azure
#40I'm not sure what the author (or Yegge, for that matter) expect a good timeframe to be for deprecating services. Anecdotally, Google announced the changeover of Cloud logging API versions in October of 2016, with a 5-month ramp (October to March) to switch from the v1 beta API to the v2 beta API. Five months is nearly two quarters, which is quite a long window for a beta API IMHO. That having been said, Google's habi…
I thought Yegge was rather specific about what he thought. He specifically mentioned a bunch of things (Java, emacs, AWS, Android, browsers) that take the approach to deprecation that he wished to see.
I would sum up his ideas as: "If you offer a service I pay for, and deploy code on, you should not break my code while you still offer the product."
I also don't think he'd have bothered to mention one or two minor things. His examples were rampant and incredibly bad, like breaking their own offerings.