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Statement by UEFA, FA, Premier League, RFEF, LaLiga, FIGC and Lega Serie A

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Re: Statement by UEFA, FA, Premier League, RFEF, LaLiga, FIGC and Lega Serie A

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Post by CodeGlitch »

gizajob wrote: post #16

Please, in the name of all that is holy, lets keep football news off HN. If the breakaway league was proposing to run on bitcoin with players contracts based on Etherium and club ownership distributed as NFT smartbeans, then maybe it would be justified, but I come here to be free of the inanity of the world of football. Regards KingLennon, Liverpool, UK

I hate football - and I'm male and from the UK. However I think this is HN-worthy simply because it is a drama that feels "more" than simply a sports issue.

As others have said - non-tech news regularly appears on HN and people come here for the intellectual commenting.

Re: Statement by UEFA, FA, Premier League, RFEF, LaLiga, FIGC and Lega Serie A

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Post by joe463369 »

PhantomGremlin wrote: post #21
gizajob wrote: post #16

Please, in the name of all that is holy, lets keep football news off HN. If the breakaway league was proposing to run on bitcoin with players contracts based on Etherium and club ownership distributed as NFT smartbeans, then maybe it would be justified, but I come here to be free of the inanity of the world of football. Regards KingLennon, Liverpool, UK

Strongly agree. Maybe okay to discuss the Super Bowl or World Cup final or some similar major sports event. Maybe. But instead, this particular submission appears to simply highlight cynical maneuvering and posturing by billionaires and corrupt special interests. On all sides. Edit: someone flagged it. Good. I didn't, but I'm glad to see that others also feel strongly against this submission.

I have to disagree - the Patriots winning the Superbowl or Brazil winning the World Cup are not events that "gratify one's intellectual curiosity." A tussle between the Premier League and the leading football clubs in England is fascinating for a number of reasons.

People in this country love football and this proposal raises an important question - to what degree should governments intervene when the free market is working against the preferences of the electorate.

Re: Statement by UEFA, FA, Premier League, RFEF, LaLiga, FIGC and Lega Serie A

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Post by IG_Semmelweiss »

joe463369 wrote: post #30
IG_Semmelweiss wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

correct. Its a weird situation. People want the UEFA / FIFA monopoly broken... but competition coming from....USA cartel holders? This is what makes it so interesting, too NOTE: its important to note that the "proposal" is led by clubs that are directly held by american sports ownership. ManU is owned by Glazer, who also owns an NFL franchise. That's why there is a reference to the NFL. Glazer & co are effectively tr…

I suspect most football fans are indifferent to the concept of Uefa/Fifa - they just want them to be less corrupt. What really piqued my interest was your phrase "I think it is brilliant to introduce more competition into the mix" and I wondered if you could expand on that.

FIFA / UEFA has a monopoly on international soccer. They sustain the monopoly leveraging micronations that effectively gives them a majority in all of the monopoly's decisions. When Germany has the same amount of voting power as Andorra, you have a problem.

Of course, this majority is not secured by good policy, instead it is secured by corruption, payouts to micronations.

I think another league -with different ownership and stakeholders- could make things quite interesting because it would take money out of the system.

However, i'd like for fans or players to own the alternative system, not clubs owned by PE firms and their buddies.

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Post by lavp »

cyrksoft wrote: post #3
IG_Semmelweiss wrote: post #2

The NFL cartel is dead serious about breaking up the UEFA (and its federations) local monopolies. I think it is brilliant to introduce more competition into the mix, but i also fear this will have the outcome to create 2 parallel tournaments and thus, take money out of the merit based system... into the franchise system. I fear the goal of this initiative is to derisk sport ownership by private funds. This is a serio…

The franchise system is horrible for sports. There is no benefit and punishment for teams, other than winning. This might work in small competitions like NFL, NBA, MLB, etc. In European football it will only create parallel tournaments with teams participating without merit (Arsenal, for ex, hasn't qualified for the last 4 Champion Leagues if I recall correctly). It makes no sense other than making more money. It wil…

It also doesn’t strike me as a sustainable model. Part of what makes European football so special is the rarity of the fixtures.

While I don’t have hope that UEFA or FIFA will successfully kill off the Super League, I have optimism that the players will. By the looks of it, it’s going to be up to them to unionize and prevent this from happening.

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