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Re: Why Is All Covid-19 News Bad News?

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Post by wizzwizz4 »

tedunangst wrote: post #24
CyberRabbi wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is a third booster shot bad news? That seems like neutral news and possibly even good news since it means we have a solution to the problem. Edit: if you’re going to downvote this comment that’s fine but could you do me the courtesy of explaining why? I don’t understand what the flaw is in my reasoning and I am curious to understand it.

"Why should I get this shot instead of waiting for the one that works?" Do I really need to clarify that I am not the one asking this question?

Why should I study now instead of revising before the exam?

Re: Why Is All Covid-19 News Bad News?

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Post by postalrat »

andybak wrote: post #29
postalrat wrote: post #4

Because apparently people are too dumb to think for themselves.

It's very hard to glean your point from this off-hand statement. I can imagine a very wide range of things you're trying to communicate but unless I delve into your post history then I'm simply guessing.

Many of them can be true at the same time.

Re: Why Is All Covid-19 News Bad News?

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Post by danans »

Most of news related to COVID is bad news. You don't get to 500k deaths in the US (3 million globally) as the result of an equal amount of good things (i.e vaccines) vs bad things (repeatedly overwhelmed ERs) happening.

The media has the effect of amplifying the bad news, and some of it is very appropriate when it emphasizes the bad behavior of those in positions of extreme power like the president, but the nature of a pandemic is to be inherently far more bad than good, and most of the good (vaccines, economic relief packages for the working class) are only relative to how bad the fundamental situation is.

Re: Why Is All Covid-19 News Bad News?

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Post by godelski »

lettergram wrote: post #6

CNN Technical director told us as much - Money & power. https://www.projectveritas.com/news/part-2-cnn-director-char...

Honestly this reminds me a lot of some numbers Pew tracks. They look at crime and perception of crime. For quite some time crime rates have been falling dramatically but perception of crime has increased.[0] There's even a pretty strong political correlation[1]. But that should be no surprise for anyone that watches Fox and CNN. Though one thing I saw at the beginning of the pandemic is that CNN really went all-in in adopting Fox's strategy: fear. I'm a bit worried when the major news sources are selling fear over reality (tricky subject). It also has a big effect on how other countries perceive us and what it is like living in the US. We see so many from Europe, China, India, and elsewhere think America is a lawless land with death around every corner, and I don't blame them if that's what we're pushing with our news. If we consider cultural warfare, I'd say it looks like we are trying to purposefully lose on that front.

[0] https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/11/20/facts-about...

[1] https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/16/voters-perc...

Re: Why Is All Covid-19 News Bad News?

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Post by throwaway3699 »

crooked-v wrote: post #20
lettergram wrote: post #6

CNN Technical director told us as much - Money & power. https://www.projectveritas.com/news/part-2-cnn-director-char...

Project Veritas has a history of being so wildly deceitful[1] that if they said the sky was blue, I'd want to look outside to check myself first before I believed them. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Veritas#Content

Maybe, but ignore Vertias involvement and just concentrate on the raw footage they captured. You can't just fake a conversation like that without fearsome technology or maybe bribery.

Re: Why Is All Covid-19 News Bad News?

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Post by crooked-v »

throwaway4china wrote: post #25
crooked-v wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Project Veritas has a history of being so wildly deceitful[1] that if they said the sky was blue, I'd want to look outside to check myself first before I believed them. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Veritas#Content

Linking to a Wikipedia article doesn't seem like a great way to convey an accusation, especially when you don't want to address the content. I suppose you don't want to also link to the defamation lawsuit Project Veritas recently won against The New York Times. Concerning the actual content, I don't see how you can chalk this up to selective editing, the guy goes on for quite a while describing CNN's tactics. What co…

> recently won

No, that's ongoing. All they've "won" was that a judge denied a motion to dismiss the suit.

> What context do you think was left out?

I'm not going to waste time looking at the video in the first place, so don't bother asking.

Re: Why Is All Covid-19 News Bad News?

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Post by CharlesRoberts »

When you open up vaccination to less vulnerable groups long before those who most need the vaccination have gotten it, then you end up with a lot more dead people than necessary.

That policy makes it look superficially like fast progress is happening but in the end extra dead people makes sad news.

Re: Why Is All Covid-19 News Bad News?

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Post by crooked-v »

throwaway3699 wrote: post #35
crooked-v wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Project Veritas has a history of being so wildly deceitful[1] that if they said the sky was blue, I'd want to look outside to check myself first before I believed them. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Veritas#Content

Maybe, but ignore Vertias involvement and just concentrate on the raw footage they captured. You can't just fake a conversation like that without fearsome technology or maybe bribery.

> ignore Vertias involvement

Sorry, no. They've tainted the well too much to do that.

Re: Why Is All Covid-19 News Bad News?

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Post by lettergram »

comrh wrote: post #18
lettergram wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a straw man argument. I wont necessarily dispute the axe to grind, but can you provide proof when "deceptive editing" occurred? Currently Project Veritas is in multiple lawsuits disputing that claim. Most recently, in Project Veritas vs New York Times, the NYT claimed their articles contain journalistic "opinions" without notifying readers. Meaning they made claims they can't back up: https://assets.ctfassets.…

Their wikipedia has a long list of incidents that I won't relist but it's not a straw man to discuss the credibility of a source.

Who edits wikipedia? There's some serious concerns there, by the co-founder of wikipedia. Basically, you can hire firms to edit wikipedia relatively easily and there's some extreme bias on anything even remotely political.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWQaVx5mGco

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