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Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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I don't know how anybody uses the stock Windows start menu. Classic Shell is the first thing I install on a new image.

Don't even get me started on that ill-starred generation of Windows Server that used the touch-screen influenced Start Screen instead of a Start Menu...

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In Windows, you pay money - you get ads and tracking. Where do I have to click to get those ads?

Quite - I have been using Windows since Windows 2.0 and I have never seen an ad - perhaps I am doing something wrong?

You have never had Candy Crush-esque apps installed automatically?

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Related: Microsoft Edge’s user numbers are continuing to grow while Firefox's, which at one point was the second-most popular browser behind Chrome, keeps falling: https://www.techspot.com/news/89180-mircosoft-edge-user-numb... Advertisements or recommendations in Windows 10 are definitely helping Edge

Ive been using Edge for the last few months and very happy with it. The new vertical tabs feature is great.

Also, I love the collections feature.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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I spent hours at the weekend making a windows 10 image with as much bloat disabled as possible. It looks like after just a few days, Microsoft have given me more stuff to remove. I only use it for gaming, so maybe my efforts would be better spent on getting games to work on Linux?

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Apple gives an OS away for free - users never see advertisements. Microsoft charges $100 for Windows 10, virtually every corner of the experience is riddled with advertisements and marketing crap.

I would argue that macOS does have some advertisements , mostly for Apple services, they just tend to be cleaner and better integrated. (Also the free bit is a little fuzzy as the costs are baked into the hardware.) Microsoft is far more guilty however. Imagine how nice Windows 10 would be if Microsoft didn't own Bing, Xbox, and Office.

> Also the free bit is a little fuzzy as the costs are baked into the hardware.

For well over a decade that didn't make OS X free. I 'member when upgrading OS X meant forking $129.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Apple gives an OS away for free - users never see advertisements. Microsoft charges $100 for Windows 10, virtually every corner of the experience is riddled with advertisements and marketing crap.

I would argue that macOS does have some advertisements , mostly for Apple services, they just tend to be cleaner and better integrated. (Also the free bit is a little fuzzy as the costs are baked into the hardware.) Microsoft is far more guilty however. Imagine how nice Windows 10 would be if Microsoft didn't own Bing, Xbox, and Office.

Exactly. Apple Music, Apple Maps, Apple iPhone, Apple Watch, Apple iPad, Apple iCloud, Apple Facetime, Apple TV, etc.

I'm pretty sure I see adverts for all these things on my "advert-free" Macbook.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Here's whats so odd here:

- google can push chrome on people in their search results. and google pushed HARD. So hard they dominate the browser market and chrome is unfortunately not known for privacy.

- google pretty much makes it impossible to get away from chrome entirely in android. Example being that you MUST use chrome webview when using the google search app. Even though everything else uses firefox for me.

- ms doesn't have search results. sure they try with bing but its not nearly as good or widespread. MS does have windows itself though, so they push where they can.

I'm not entirely unsympathetic to MS at the moment. And this is coming from the pitchforks and torches guy against IE6/7/8/9 back in the day.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's pretty fair. You pay money - you get a product. In Windows, you pay money - you get ads and tracking. edit: To make it clear to people not reading the comment carefully, I'm not saying MacOS is "free". I'm merely saying that once you pay for the computer, the OS is included in the price. And there is no additional monetization under the form of ads or tracking. Unlike in the Windows world, where you pay for the…

> In Windows, you pay money - you get ads and tracking. Where do I have to click to get those ads?

Off the top of my head, Windows has advertised or directly installed Edge (are you suuuuure you don't want to default it?), OneDrive (in file explorer, no less), Office 365, Bing (in the system search bar), Xbox something or other, Candy Crush, Teams, Skype, and probably several others that I'm forgetting.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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The are a number of Windows settings for turning off what it calls "suggestions". Do a search in the Settings app for "suggest", click "Show all results" and see what comes up. Amongst them are: * Show suggestions occasionally in Start * Show suggestions in your timeline * Suggest ways I can finish setting up my device to get the most out of Windows * Get tips, tricks and suggestions as you use Windows * Turn off sug…

Imagine paying money for an os and having to go through this song and dance to not have your productivity tool become an ad infested unproductivity tool
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