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Remote working: Is Big Tech going off work from home?

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Re: Remote working: Is Big Tech going off work from home?

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Post by outside1234 »

ryandrake wrote: post #13

> "If they want to become a people manager, if they want to get increasing responsibilities, or if they want to build a culture within their teams, how are we going to do that remotely?" he asked. I love how these executives are all of a sudden so worried about my career trajectory. Maybe you should assume I’ve thought about this trade-off and decided that I’m fine with no promotions if it meant I can work remotely.…

We are going to get more responsibility by being good at remote people management! :)

aka: We are going to take YOUR job since you apparently can't adapt.

Re: Remote working: Is Big Tech going off work from home?

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Post by golover721 »

tartoran wrote: post #7

I got the taste of remote work and nothing’s gonna convince me it’s better in the office. Im more productive remotely, I save money on transportation and food, I save time, I am close to my toddler son, I could save the company a lot by not wasting the office space on me and most of all Im an introvert and for a long time I haven’t felt so comfortable. Why change that? I will seek a remote position other place if my…

One thing I find interesting is that individual contributors always seem to feel they are more productive when WFH. But at least anecdotally the upper management I have talked to in tech companies are saying that WFH has dropped productivity significantly. Now maybe this is just WFH w/ all the stresses of a pandemic vs. WFH in normal times, but it is interesting.

Re: Remote working: Is Big Tech going off work from home?

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Post by outside1234 »

eunoia wrote: post #25
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I will ask that the team work out an appropriate culture, which probably includes coming to the office at least once a week That's essentially what this article is saying: The big tech companies are requiring employees to live within commuting distance of offices and to come in for some portion of their time. The question now is where the line is drawn on how often they can work from home. The companies aren't sayi…

I personally dislike the hybrid approach because it means everyone still has to remain in the greater Bay Area. Surely there have to be more people like me that enjoy the bigco work but want to live in more human friendly places where we have an actual shot at establishing roots and living real lives.

I hear you and there might be different models that can work for different teams.

And I will note that the greater Bay Area just got a lot bigger if its only once a week.

Re: Remote working: Is Big Tech going off work from home?

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Post by tomc1985 »

golover721 wrote: post #33
tartoran wrote: post #7

I got the taste of remote work and nothing’s gonna convince me it’s better in the office. Im more productive remotely, I save money on transportation and food, I save time, I am close to my toddler son, I could save the company a lot by not wasting the office space on me and most of all Im an introvert and for a long time I haven’t felt so comfortable. Why change that? I will seek a remote position other place if my…

One thing I find interesting is that individual contributors always seem to feel they are more productive when WFH. But at least anecdotally the upper management I have talked to in tech companies are saying that WFH has dropped productivity significantly. Now maybe this is just WFH w/ all the stresses of a pandemic vs. WFH in normal times, but it is interesting.

Perhaps each of these cohorts are speaking out of their own biases and not any kind of impartial findings

Re: Remote working: Is Big Tech going off work from home?

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Post by sanderjd »

I suspect there will be a great sort between remote-only and office-only, with employees choosing one or the other. Some people really love working from home and some really hate it. Both models can work well, but what works less well is a lot of mixing of the two models within a single organization.

What I'm curious about though is what level this sort might happen at. Maybe it doesn't need to be at the company level. Maybe it can be at the level of an "office" (in abstract terms), which I think is what Stripe seems to be trying to do with their "remote headquarters", or maybe it could be whole product orgs choose one or the other. Or maybe it works at even more granularity, down to the individual team level.

I'm not sure how it will work, but something the pandemic has taught me is that there are a lot of people who love the office, and a lot of people who love being remote. I think figuring out some way to give both kinds of people what they want, somehow, is going to be the way to go.

Re: Remote working: Is Big Tech going off work from home?

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Post by xwdv »

golover721 wrote: post #33
tartoran wrote: post #7

I got the taste of remote work and nothing’s gonna convince me it’s better in the office. Im more productive remotely, I save money on transportation and food, I save time, I am close to my toddler son, I could save the company a lot by not wasting the office space on me and most of all Im an introvert and for a long time I haven’t felt so comfortable. Why change that? I will seek a remote position other place if my…

One thing I find interesting is that individual contributors always seem to feel they are more productive when WFH. But at least anecdotally the upper management I have talked to in tech companies are saying that WFH has dropped productivity significantly. Now maybe this is just WFH w/ all the stresses of a pandemic vs. WFH in normal times, but it is interesting.

It’s bullshit. Their “asses in chairs” metric that they use to measure productivity is not working anymore.
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