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Re: Revision demoparty banned on Twitch mid-stream

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Is anything capable of disrupting Twitch at this point? YouTube would be impossible to disrupt, but Twitch is ephemeral. So maybe if enough people got outraged?

Microsoft tried and failed, plus Facebook and Google never really got anywhere. The irony is most people on twitch are surprisingly unhappy with it and want a better alternative. The other thing to know is that twitch is still a significant money loser for Amazon.

Re: Revision demoparty banned on Twitch mid-stream

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Demos, especially modern/highend prods with tons of noise and other tiny details (scanline filters, fractals, ...), are legendarily ruthless encoder killers.

Kind of ironic, given how small the sources are.

Interesting challenge

Smallest demo that compressed to the largest video file

Re: Revision demoparty banned on Twitch mid-stream

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As much as I love some of the streamers on that platform, I think I gotta agree. Twitch is going downhill hard and fast.

Its just becoming more like reddit. Reddit has some great information and content if you know where to look and don't stick to the most popular subs. Twitch is the same way. Twitch has some great programming/game dev/traditional art/digital art streams. Also some great channels where people build mechanical keyboards and sometimes other electronics stuff. I just wish it was easier to permanently filter out channels t…

It's not just becoming more like reddit. Reddit still allows you to post porn and whatever you want in your own subreddits, and you can even make subreddits invite only.

Twitch inconsistently applies the ban hammer across the board. DMCA takedowns apply to everyone, even if it's your ringtone while you're coding with just 1 viewer. And takedowns rarely are given any sort of explanation, and if you aren't already a big enough streamer to create an uproar on twitter you're likely fucked.

And as little faith as I have in reddit's moderation, I have none in twitch whatsover. Trusting twitch's moderation team is like trusting facebook's privacy team. Yes, it really is that fucking awful.

Re: Revision demoparty banned on Twitch mid-stream

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Its just becoming more like reddit. Reddit has some great information and content if you know where to look and don't stick to the most popular subs. Twitch is the same way. Twitch has some great programming/game dev/traditional art/digital art streams. Also some great channels where people build mechanical keyboards and sometimes other electronics stuff. I just wish it was easier to permanently filter out channels t…

It's not just becoming more like reddit. Reddit still allows you to post porn and whatever you want in your own subreddits, and you can even make subreddits invite only. Twitch inconsistently applies the ban hammer across the board. DMCA takedowns apply to everyone, even if it's your ringtone while you're coding with just 1 viewer. And takedowns rarely are given any sort of explanation, and if you aren't already a bi…

I agree the moderation of twitch is much worse. I was referring to the quality of the content. There are worthwhile niches you can find on both sites.

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It's not just becoming more like reddit. Reddit still allows you to post porn and whatever you want in your own subreddits, and you can even make subreddits invite only. Twitch inconsistently applies the ban hammer across the board. DMCA takedowns apply to everyone, even if it's your ringtone while you're coding with just 1 viewer. And takedowns rarely are given any sort of explanation, and if you aren't already a bi…

I agree the moderation of twitch is much worse. I was referring to the quality of the content. There are worthwhile niches you can find on both sites.

Sorry for the misunderstanding. I agree, there are lots of great small streamers on twitch.

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Quality is terrific. Probably because the lo-fi frames compress nicely! Underscores the need for a dedicated video service for live coders, algo ravers, demosceners, etc. Mux would be an interesting sponsor here ;)

Demos, especially modern/highend prods with tons of noise and other tiny details (scanline filters, fractals, ...), are legendarily ruthless encoder killers.

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Re: Revision demoparty banned on Twitch mid-stream

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Is anything capable of disrupting Twitch at this point? YouTube would be impossible to disrupt, but Twitch is ephemeral. So maybe if enough people got outraged?

Twitch itself replaced HitboxTV, which was pretty much in Twitch's situation today: a de facto monopoly, and technical issues (they offered either the resource hungry Flashplayer or a semi-broken HTML5 implementation).

SO what will disrupt Twitch is the same thing as usual: a combo of a greedy company, a user experience that gets worse and worse, and a new tech coming out.

Re: Revision demoparty banned on Twitch mid-stream

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Is anything capable of disrupting Twitch at this point? YouTube would be impossible to disrupt, but Twitch is ephemeral. So maybe if enough people got outraged?

Youtube would be theoretical able, if they get their shit together and fix their aweful attitude and technology. They have the size, the ability and money...but for some reason social services & user friendliness is a big blind spot for google and they regulary fail hard in that area. And this shows in youtube streaming-area which is so user hostile that it even has started to shrink now.
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