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Re: LineageOS 18.1

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Post by dekoruotas »

dotancohen wrote: post #30

How well do Lineage or other custom ROMs work with devices that are not explicitly supported? I've got a Samsung A50 that has the absolute worst UI, even though I loved the UI on my Samsung Note 3. Rather than ditch the perfectly fine hardware, I would like to install a custom ROM on it. However the A50 is not on the list of supported devices.

Usually they list other supported ROMs on XDA Forum, but a quick check there indicates to me that there are no AOSP ROMs for A50. It is likely due to it using Exynos chip which requires use of proprietary drivers.

Re: LineageOS 18.1

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Post by Scene_Cast2 »

Google Trends is telling me that "peak modding" for android was around 2014, and has steadily been decreasing since. [0]

What happened since then? Are people more satisfied with stock ROMs and see less use for them? FWIW, my own phone is on LineageOS, and love the freedom it provides.

[0] https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=2009-11-01%202...

Re: LineageOS 18.1

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Post by jhoho »

codethief wrote: post #19

I've been using LineageOS since the good ol' CyanogenMod days and I am very grateful for how much work the developers put into it day in and day out. Thanks to them, I managed to get rid of Google Apps in my day-to-day life almost[0] entirely and drastically improve privacy for me: Instead of Google Play Services I use MicroG[1] and instead of Play Store, I use Aurora Store[2] and F-Droid. For syncing files there is…

CalyxOS might be worth a look!

It's available one for Pixels and the Mi A2 and offers seamless updates, microG and a closed bootloader!

https://calyxos.org/

Re: LineageOS 18.1

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Post by ZeWaren »

Flex247A wrote: post #10

I am using an unofficial build of LineageOS 14.1 on my 6 year old tablet (Mi PAD 1 'mocha'). After using it for over a month, the ROM is amazingly stable. The earlier MiUi which the tablet shipped with (7.5.2 Android KitKat) had problems with memory management. For some reason, the 2GB RAM was partitioned into two parts, one for the OS and the other for the running apps. But LineageOS does not have this problem, and…

I have a similar experience with my Pixel 2 XL.

The Lineage build with power saving mode stays up 2-3 days with active use.

I'm extremely satisfied by it. Kudos to the Lineage team!

Re: LineageOS 18.1

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Post by 2ion »

Unfortunately, even if LOS supports my device (it does), it's not a viable solution anymore for me as a primary smartphone OS (even though I really appreciate some of its features -- used it for years on previous phones) due to SafetyNet.

- Google Pay will stop working. - My banks' (multiple) primary apps and pushTAN solutions will stop working.

and that's two of the most important things I use my phone for nowadays. (Forced) bank MFA and payments. Also for voluntary MFA with andOTP of course, because I'm not against MFA, just idiotic pushTANs.

Ironically, devices which haven't had security fixes in 1 year (thanks for nothing, Sony) will also pass safetynet, and the mentioned apps' vendors will still deem them "secure".

Android security past device release remains a joke. Solutions like LOS exist to keep devices running well past the pitiful life span OEMs allow for, but they have become unviable.

Re: LineageOS 18.1

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Post by infogulch »

BelenusMordred wrote: post #14
_joel wrote: post #3

Any recomendations for current spec phones that work with lineage?

People here are saying Oneplus, but I would recommend Pixel 4/5 or Xiaomi Mi A3 with stock Android One to fallback on if you don't like using LineageOS. Oneplus have become quite end-user hostile lately. They used to be quite good for this stuff but times do change. If you go the Pixel route, there's also GrapheneOS (formerly Copperhead). It offers a lot more security features, with of course some tradeoffs when you…

It seems GrapheneOS recommends Pixel 5 or Pixel 4a 5G for the longest expected support window. [1]

[1]: https://grapheneos.org/faq#recommended-devices

Re: LineageOS 18.1

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Post by nfriedly »

Scene_Cast2 wrote: post #32

Google Trends is telling me that "peak modding" for android was around 2014, and has steadily been decreasing since. [0] What happened since then? Are people more satisfied with stock ROMs and see less use for them? FWIW, my own phone is on LineageOS, and love the freedom it provides. [0] https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=2009-11-01%202...

Yea, I'd say stock ROMs are definitely improving. I used to mod phones they day I got them. Then I got a Pixel 2 and since then I've just left it on stock firmware.

I'm probably going to have to go back to a custom ROM sometime soon, now that Google has stopped supporting it... but it was perfectly fine to use as-is for the past 3 years.

Re: LineageOS 18.1

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Post by johnnycerberus »

Scene_Cast2 wrote: post #32

Google Trends is telling me that "peak modding" for android was around 2014, and has steadily been decreasing since. [0] What happened since then? Are people more satisfied with stock ROMs and see less use for them? FWIW, my own phone is on LineageOS, and love the freedom it provides. [0] https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=2009-11-01%202...

My 2 cents, I've abandoned custom ROMs (circa 2015) because many financial apps that I was using were very anxious when it came to my OS and they stopped working. Even multiplayer games stopped running and required me to use a stock version, without root. The majority of games on mobile are masked casinos, a pure microtransaction fest so they behave like actual financial apps.

Re: LineageOS 18.1

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Post by arsome »

Scene_Cast2 wrote: post #32

Google Trends is telling me that "peak modding" for android was around 2014, and has steadily been decreasing since. [0] What happened since then? Are people more satisfied with stock ROMs and see less use for them? FWIW, my own phone is on LineageOS, and love the freedom it provides. [0] https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=2009-11-01%202...

A lot happened - many more recent phones, especially from big brands like Samsung heavily restrict unlocking of their bootloaders. Google implemented SafetyNet, meaning anyone who wants to use things like Google Pay, Netflix, even Pokemon Go and others now has to jump through hoops. Additionally, things like Netflix are still restricted from HD playback on unlocked devices due to hardware DRM.

Android has also gotten a lot better - many of the modifications people were doing just aren't as necessary anymore, most of the features I used from GravityBox back in the day are now part of the OS. The difference between major versions has dwindled. Back in 2014 we had some of the most hackable devices just starting to age out when new Android releases with major changes were hitting and manufacturers refusing to support them.

Personally I still root and stick to Pixel and OnePlus devices where it's easy to do so. Magisk makes it relatively easy to achieve a safetynet bypass and having things like Advanced Charging Controller around means my device is going to last for years longer, but it's no longer as simple as it once was. With the Android improvements though it's hard for even me to rationalize the need to load custom ROMs until my manufacturer has abandoned my device though.

Re: LineageOS 18.1

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Post by dartharva »

Scene_Cast2 wrote: post #32

Google Trends is telling me that "peak modding" for android was around 2014, and has steadily been decreasing since. [0] What happened since then? Are people more satisfied with stock ROMs and see less use for them? FWIW, my own phone is on LineageOS, and love the freedom it provides. [0] https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=2009-11-01%202...

Google and OEMs gradually kept adding mechanisms that discouraged ROM tampering by locking features, etc.

Many apps nowadays refuse to run on phones that aren't using authentic OEM software. With every new version, the tradeoff kept getting steeper for rooting or customizing Android phones. Also, Android has huge fragmentation with a large diversity of devices one has to cater to if someone wants to release a customized ROM.

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