There is a typo in the title. It should be Google and not Goolgle.
Google collects 20 times more telemetry from Android devices than Apple from iOS
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Re: Google collects 20 times more telemetry from Android devices than Apple from iOS
#32Last week my Pixel started to display an overlay with closed captions of the audio flowing through the device. It listens in on any audio and transcribes it. Probably handy for podcasts, but other things are just scary. Maybe it's OK if Google does it, I don't really know. I dislike it, it concerns me. The device would have a transcription of audio conversations I have through apps like WhatsApp. Or it could do somet…
The live transcription behavior is enabled by a button at the bottom of the volume control toggle. If it transcribes even if that button is off that seems a lot more concerning.
I don't think transcribing on device and then uploading would make any sense: for something like podcasts they could just do serverside transcription (they already do for youtube videos at least).
Re: Google collects 20 times more telemetry from Android devices than Apple from iOS
#33" Modern cars regularly send basic data about vehicle components, their safety status and service schedules to car manufacturers, and mobile phones work in very similar ways." -Google This is a beautiful quote because it is an example of one industry's bad behavior leading to another industry's bad behavior, upon which the first industry then users the second's similarity to justify themselves. Cars only started doin…
This may be pedantic, but Steam was collecting its 30% long before the App Store opened. Thought maybe that was inspired by Apple's cut of music revenues in the iTunes Store.
Older app stores and especially physical retail collected a lot more than 30%.
Re: Google collects 20 times more telemetry from Android devices than Apple from iOS
#34" Modern cars regularly send basic data about vehicle components, their safety status and service schedules to car manufacturers, and mobile phones work in very similar ways." -Google This is a beautiful quote because it is an example of one industry's bad behavior leading to another industry's bad behavior, upon which the first industry then users the second's similarity to justify themselves. Cars only started doin…
The 30% cut was considered very good at the time. It was way better than the 50-90% cut that traditional publishers would take.
A sibling comment notes that Steam charged 30% at the time (though some had better deals) but it's worth noting that Steam was not an open platform that anyone could publish on. Much like for consoles, to put a game on Steam you had to have a preexisting relationship with Valve, or try to develop one with no certainty of success. This was also considered a very generous cut because getting on Steam was almost a guarantee of financial success.
Re: Google collects 20 times more telemetry from Android devices than Apple from iOS
#35It's all about the data. Even here. They track who posts what, when, and from where.
Re: Google collects 20 times more telemetry from Android devices than Apple from iOS
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
Find My Phone? It is a choice to enroll in this, and it’s mighty convenient when you lose or get your phone stolen.
No, it's the location it uses to report to Apple Maps for the purposes of improving traffic.
Much, much more than traffic, though that is useful. The anonymized probe data is used to refine business driveways inferred from satellite imagery, for example. That’s why suddenly Maps can often route you to the correct parking lot instead of a nearby curb. Think about it: if you know a phone is navigating to Safeway, where the user stops navigation is potentially interesting in aggregate and divulges almost nothing except the average parking preference of an iOS user.
Source: Worked on that. One example of hundreds.
Re: Google collects 20 times more telemetry from Android devices than Apple from iOS
#37" Modern cars regularly send basic data about vehicle components, their safety status and service schedules to car manufacturers, and mobile phones work in very similar ways." -Google This is a beautiful quote because it is an example of one industry's bad behavior leading to another industry's bad behavior, upon which the first industry then users the second's similarity to justify themselves. Cars only started doin…
This may be pedantic, but Steam was collecting its 30% long before the App Store opened. Thought maybe that was inspired by Apple's cut of music revenues in the iTunes Store.
And just to be complete, there is little preventing other people from creating their own Steam (many do) or not using Steam at all (developers can publish their apps directly to users). This is not the case with the App store.
Re: Google collects 20 times more telemetry from Android devices than Apple from iOS
#38Last week my Pixel started to display an overlay with closed captions of the audio flowing through the device. It listens in on any audio and transcribes it. Probably handy for podcasts, but other things are just scary. Maybe it's OK if Google does it, I don't really know. I dislike it, it concerns me. The device would have a transcription of audio conversations I have through apps like WhatsApp. Or it could do somet…
The live transcription behavior is enabled by a button at the bottom of the volume control toggle. If it transcribes even if that button is off that seems a lot more concerning. I don't think transcribing on device and then uploading would make any sense: for something like podcasts they could just do serverside transcription (they already do for youtube videos at least).
1) press volume down
2) you should see the volume dialog with a box with squiggly lines in it at the bottom of the volume slider
3) press that to turn it off
Re: Google collects 20 times more telemetry from Android devices than Apple from iOS
#39" Modern cars regularly send basic data about vehicle components, their safety status and service schedules to car manufacturers, and mobile phones work in very similar ways." -Google This is a beautiful quote because it is an example of one industry's bad behavior leading to another industry's bad behavior, upon which the first industry then users the second's similarity to justify themselves. Cars only started doin…
> It's similar to when Apple defended it's 30% store cut by claiming it's an "industry standard"... specifically, an industry standard that Apple established.
I thought Apple chose that figure as game developers were already used to it from consoles and Steam.
Re: Google collects 20 times more telemetry from Android devices than Apple from iOS
#40I wrote about CompatTelRunner because of the CPU time it consumes, which even MS employees like Billy O'Neal complain about: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Desktop_Analytics