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Re: Compare AWS and Azure Services to Google Cloud

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Post by resonantjacket5 »

bushbaba wrote: post #25
richards wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Keeping scrolling! Under GKE (managed Kubernetes), you see the call outs to EKS and AKS, respectively. The Anthos point is that other clouds don't offer their k8s stacks as supported options on other clouds. If you see things you find wrong in the table, let me know. Disclaimer: I work in product management at Google Cloud

> other clouds don't offer their k8s stacks as supported options on other clouds. AWS does have these offerings. https://aws.amazon.com/eks/eks-anywhere/ https://aws.amazon.com/eks/eks-distro/

It doesn't look like "eks anywhere"is released yet?

Re: Compare AWS and Azure Services to Google Cloud

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Post by judge2020 »

thedevelopnik wrote: post #17
preommr wrote: post #12

Competition is always better and welcomed. But I really don't understand what edge google offers other products. If anything, I am always really wary about google and their products. People might say that enterprise services are different, and it's different from free services where if you're not paying you can't expect anything, but there's been paid services by google that have been absolutely terrible like stadia.…

I love Google’s Cloud services. I think in many ways they have the best product. I also worked somewhere where we made a million dollar commit. We had to get support through a VAR because Google basically doesn’t offer support. We basically paid someone else to file tickets that got dismissive responses while we had prod meltdown. They’re also price competitive. I was going to go there again in my current position in…

How long ago was this? On my ‘basic’ workspace plan the help button asks you to describe your issue, but then it’s one click away from getting phone support.

Re: Compare AWS and Azure Services to Google Cloud

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Post by Rantenki »

Every time I am tempted to use Google Cloud, I wander over to https://killedbygoogle.com/ and regain my senses.

I am not saying that Google is going to kill core product offerings like K8S... what I am saying is that they lack focus, and change direction without regard for their customers. That, coupled with their famously bad support means that I can't sleep at night with the confidence that I can build a complex product on top of their offering. I'll always be worrying that I have to rip out or re-architect large parts of my code to deal with their lack of product stability.

Re: Compare AWS and Azure Services to Google Cloud

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Post by resonantjacket5 »

infinitone wrote: post #8

This list is biased, its missing Azure products like Azure Data Explorer, of which AWS/GCP has no alternative (afaik).

Can you not use Bigquery or Aws Redshift? On the microsoft blog posts it seems Azure Data Explorer is more price efficient, though I don't quite understand besides that is it doing something special compared to microsoft's existing offerings?

Re: Compare AWS and Azure Services to Google Cloud

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Post by edoceo »

jeppesen-io wrote: post #29
preommr wrote: post #12

Competition is always better and welcomed. But I really don't understand what edge google offers other products. If anything, I am always really wary about google and their products. People might say that enterprise services are different, and it's different from free services where if you're not paying you can't expect anything, but there's been paid services by google that have been absolutely terrible like stadia.…

> I am always really wary about google and their products. People might say that enterprise services are different, and it's different from free services where if you're not paying you can't expect anything, but there's been paid services by google that have been absolutely terrible like stadia GCP is a major player in the cloud space. Number 3 last I looked. I fail to see how that compares to Stadia, an expensive ex…

You're talking past each other with the word "marketing". One of you means "messaging and product positioning detail" and the other means "biz-speak drivel"

Re: Compare AWS and Azure Services to Google Cloud

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Post by cocoland2 »

resonantjacket5 wrote: post #34
infinitone wrote: post #8

This list is biased, its missing Azure products like Azure Data Explorer, of which AWS/GCP has no alternative (afaik).

Can you not use Bigquery or Aws Redshift? On the microsoft blog posts it seems Azure Data Explorer is more price efficient, though I don't quite understand besides that is it doing something special compared to microsoft's existing offerings?

ADX is an extremely good timeseries data store. Integrates very easily without hassles into EventHub , Blobstore etc, and also has a very intuitive query language. (Though we could say AWS product integrate with Kinesis / S3 into RedShift). Needless to say a lot of nice features like Geo queries , extremely good support make it really good!

Azure was not as good as GCP in terms of data offerings , but with ADX and CosmosDB etc is really getting par with other clouds really well.

Coupled with strong Azure IoT , these data products may be a real winner

Re: Compare AWS and Azure Services to Google Cloud

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Post by ttrbls »

About 8 years ago I migrated the company's infrastructure to AWS. About 5 years ago I built out a real-time Android app and decided it would make total sense to use Google Cloud services. I regret that move even today. GCS services are unreliable w/many limitations, let's not even talk about UX/UI. AWS is not all peaches and cream either, they launch new services all the time (which are not so well developed ie. IOT / pubSub /) but their core services are solid (S3/CF/SQS/SNS)

Re: Compare AWS and Azure Services to Google Cloud

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Post by NoPicklez »

ncallaway wrote: post #30
Johnny555 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In what ways is Google the best product if you had a prod meltdown and couldn't get support, and when you wanted to increase your use of GCS at another job, you were unable to do so?

> In what ways is Google the best product > I think in many ways they have the best product. They didn't say that Google had the best product. They said that in many categories, it was the best. That doesn't mean it's the overall best product. In fact, from their post it seems pretty clear that they ended up deciding that Google Cloud wasn't the overall best product. > if you had a prod meltdown and couldn't get supp…

I think they were just asking them to justify in what ways do they think Google have the best product as their post only really highlighted the ways they weren't.

Given the experience they had in the ways they were bad, it could be difficult for others to justify them despite the ways in which they might have the best product.

Re: Compare AWS and Azure Services to Google Cloud

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Post by twelve40 »

aliyfarah wrote: post #27
preommr wrote: post #12

Competition is always better and welcomed. But I really don't understand what edge google offers other products. If anything, I am always really wary about google and their products. People might say that enterprise services are different, and it's different from free services where if you're not paying you can't expect anything, but there's been paid services by google that have been absolutely terrible like stadia.…

Google Cloud is just a pleasure to use. It has by far the best documentation, the best user interface, the best CLIs (gcloud etc) and tooling, and they have the most accessible teams of any of the other cloud providers. I remember having an issue with firebase authentication a while back, I posted a question on stackoverflow and a firebase team member had answered it within a few hours. Good luck getting any help wit…

Hm AWS support has been very good to me. Granted we pay for it, but every time I had a question they actually reproduced the situation based on my descriptions, prototyped a solution and came back with exact steps on what to do, pretty quickly, too.

(Can't speak for GCP or Azure, I run limited production stuff there since historically we just happened to get a ton of AWS credits first. But, I try to stick with open-source instead of Amazon's proprietary just so that migration or multi-cloud remains an option for us)

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