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Other challenges to SV’s preeminence are more fundamental than the tech diaspora

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Re: Other challenges to SV’s preeminence are more fundamental than the tech diaspora

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Post by Apocryphon »

ping_pong wrote: post #5

Im so tired of random writers, even if it's O'Reilly himself, trying to predict that Silicon Valley is doomed. That's like saying Hollywood is doomed, or Wall Street is doomed. I've been around long enough to know that nothing will unseat Silicon Valley as the tech capital of the world. Silicon Valley has the critical mass of talent, VC money and greed that can't be replicated anywhere else in the world. There's a re…

Did you even read the article? Because you seem to be addressing a generic “Silicon Valley the place is dead” clickbait article rather than an in-depth thoughtful essay about the state of the tech industry and how it might transform as more sciences beyond computing come to prominence.

As detailed as your comment is, it doesn’t seem germane to the OP at all and appears to be responding to merely the title and the identity of the author.

Re: Other challenges to SV’s preeminence are more fundamental than the tech diaspora

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Post by seniorivn »

raspasov wrote: post #18
gxs wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, but never say never. The Chinese will for sure have their own version of Silicon Valley and their giants will rival ours, no doubt. I think there will be other critical centers of tech innovation, similar to how Hollywood is Hollywood but NYC has an industry as well.

The fear of China "overtaking" the US is like the fear of the Soviet Union during the Cold War. Real, but with no substance. A system built on top of paranoia is very unlikely to succeed.

you oversimplify their model, for most people in Schenchzen(Chinese silicon valley) the motivation is the same as it was in US

Re: Other challenges to SV’s preeminence are more fundamental than the tech diaspora

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Post by brandmeyer »

TedShiller wrote: post #13

The people that he mentions at the beginning of the article who have left have all peaked in their careers. The real loss would not be of people who have peaked leaving but of people who haven’t peaked yet leaving.

> people who haven’t peaked yet leaving.

No, it is people who haven't peaked yet not even coming in the first place.

Re: Other challenges to SV’s preeminence are more fundamental than the tech diaspora

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Post by [deleted] »

onethought wrote: post #11
ping_pong wrote: post #5

Im so tired of random writers, even if it's O'Reilly himself, trying to predict that Silicon Valley is doomed. That's like saying Hollywood is doomed, or Wall Street is doomed. I've been around long enough to know that nothing will unseat Silicon Valley as the tech capital of the world. Silicon Valley has the critical mass of talent, VC money and greed that can't be replicated anywhere else in the world. There's a re…

> the best the world could do is China which just stole US ideas and then built a firewall to keep others out. So where was WeChat and ubiquitous QR codes for everything stolen from? Silicon Valley still haven't figured out how to do Ubiquitous contactless payment... it's like going back in time every time I travel there, and I have to swipe a credit card and sign with a pen. Or Taiwan's COVID/PPE Supply tracking sys…

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Re: Other challenges to SV’s preeminence are more fundamental than the tech diaspora

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Post by seniorivn »

baloney1 wrote: post #19
EGreg wrote: post #9

Until 1988, California was ruled largely by Republicans. Since 1988, it gradually cane to be ruled more by Democrats, with the notable exception of the "moderate" Republican governor Schwartzenegger. https://www.latimes.com/projects/la-pol-ca-california-voting... In both eras, its GDP and population went up, until it became the 5th or 4th largest economy in the world. A bit of mean reversion occurs, after massive spi…

Correlation does not imply causation, son.

but he clearly does

Re: Other challenges to SV’s preeminence are more fundamental than the tech diaspora

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Post by barry-cotter »

ping_pong wrote: post #5

Im so tired of random writers, even if it's O'Reilly himself, trying to predict that Silicon Valley is doomed. That's like saying Hollywood is doomed, or Wall Street is doomed. I've been around long enough to know that nothing will unseat Silicon Valley as the tech capital of the world. Silicon Valley has the critical mass of talent, VC money and greed that can't be replicated anywhere else in the world. There's a re…

> Silicon Valley has the critical mass of talent, VC money and greed that can't be replicated anywhere else in the world.

Tel Aviv has it. Beijing has it. SV’s big advantage over them is the internal market and Beijing will acquire that soon enough.

> There's a reason why we have never seen a world leading tech company come out from anywhere except the US.

True enough in software but see SAP. DeepMind was British, no? Give it time. Germany was the epicenter of the chemical industry before and to a large extent after WW1. It's still a big deal but Detroit is still a big deal in the automotive industry too.

> Despite having much higher educational standards even in 3rd world countries, the best the world could do is China which just stole US ideas and then built a firewall to keep others out.

There is no credible interpretation of this. In CS the US’ dominance in research is so great I’m not even sure what the best non-US university even is, perhaps ETH Zürich?

Re: Other challenges to SV’s preeminence are more fundamental than the tech diaspora

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Post by rapsey »

ping_pong wrote: post #5

Im so tired of random writers, even if it's O'Reilly himself, trying to predict that Silicon Valley is doomed. That's like saying Hollywood is doomed, or Wall Street is doomed. I've been around long enough to know that nothing will unseat Silicon Valley as the tech capital of the world. Silicon Valley has the critical mass of talent, VC money and greed that can't be replicated anywhere else in the world. There's a re…

SV will exist for as long as the US is in the position it is in the world. Money will flow while USD is the worlds reserve currency.

The US is however rotting from within. The political disfunction will eventually destroy everything.

Re: Other challenges to SV’s preeminence are more fundamental than the tech diaspora

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Post by [deleted] »

onethought wrote: post #11
ping_pong wrote: post #5

Im so tired of random writers, even if it's O'Reilly himself, trying to predict that Silicon Valley is doomed. That's like saying Hollywood is doomed, or Wall Street is doomed. I've been around long enough to know that nothing will unseat Silicon Valley as the tech capital of the world. Silicon Valley has the critical mass of talent, VC money and greed that can't be replicated anywhere else in the world. There's a re…

> the best the world could do is China which just stole US ideas and then built a firewall to keep others out. So where was WeChat and ubiquitous QR codes for everything stolen from? Silicon Valley still haven't figured out how to do Ubiquitous contactless payment... it's like going back in time every time I travel there, and I have to swipe a credit card and sign with a pen. Or Taiwan's COVID/PPE Supply tracking sys…

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Re: Other challenges to SV’s preeminence are more fundamental than the tech diaspora

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Post by NeverFade »

TedShiller wrote: post #13

The people that he mentions at the beginning of the article who have left have all peaked in their careers. The real loss would not be of people who have peaked leaving but of people who haven’t peaked yet leaving.

Elon Musk has "peaked in his career"? I understand that we need to rudely dismiss everyone who left NorCal, but maybe let's try to maintain some semblance of connection to reality?

Re: Other challenges to SV’s preeminence are more fundamental than the tech diaspora

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Post by Haarisgrey »

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