Google Play service fee reduced to 15% for the first $1M/year
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Re: Google Play service fee reduced to 15% for the first $1M/year
#32I think it is also likely that >1M$ developers can start negotiating custom agreements. Hard to say how much exactly is their negotiating power in that case, but it is probably non-zero.
Re: Google Play service fee reduced to 15% for the first $1M/year
#33Shouldn't this be inverted? Small devs with unknown apps have more to gain from play store's distribution, and won't mind paying 30% of a smaller revenue in exchange for all the help. Bigger apps like Netflix are already doing their own advertising and marketing and have close to zero to gain from play store. And they will be making a large amount of revenue. According to this they will have to pay 30% of a larger am…
I see your logic, kind of. But if I abstract the reasoning it might be recast something like this:
Poorer citizens with unknown prospects have more to gain from the government's services, and won't mind paying 30% of their earnings for all that help.
Wealthier citizens like Bezos and Musk are already taking care of their own garbage, lobbying, education, protection and who knows what else and have close to zero to gain from government services.
I'll withhold judgement. It's certainly an unconventional argument to make in a world where progressive tax rates are the conventional norm. But we do live in interesting times.
Re: Google Play service fee reduced to 15% for the first $1M/year
#34Worth remembering that as good as it is that Google is reducing it's abusive taxation on third party developers, the primary reason they're doing this is to try to quiet the majority of developers asking for stronger government regulations against this taxation without actually reducing their profit much, since the large companies which bring in the majority of revenue still have to pay full price. Basically, they're…
You know that Android is open source and you can just sideload apps, install a 3rd party app store or replace entire OS with your own ROM right? What, your app/game is not valuable enough to the user to bother with unless it's a single click install without having to enter credit card? Well... Basically - Situation is not at all the same as with iOS - There is too much emphasis on friction-less low value installs and…
this opensource thing is not so straight as you have explained.
In Android these days I find lot of finance app using some proprietarytechnology like google safety net. And most app are using google play services which again is closed source.
Android is not true opensource software ...
Re: Google Play service fee reduced to 15% for the first $1M/year
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is your feeling on what Google's hopes speculation, or do you have some inside information?
I imagine that it's speculation but it's reasonable speculation, since maximizing profits is pretty much the sole goal of a publicly traded corporation at the end of the day.
I don't think that supports the speculation since as the GP stated, Google is actually doing the opposite of maximizing profits in this case.
Re: Google Play service fee reduced to 15% for the first $1M/year
#36Further evidence that developer pressure and legal pressure on smartphone platforms work, that they aren't a waste of time. Prolonged campaigns for better terms can make a tangible difference, and we should be encouraged by this result to advocate for even better terms. It turns out that when they have real pressure, it is possible for Google and Apple to come up with better terms. Keep in mind that the reason Google…
> Further evidence that developer pressure and legal pressure on smartphone platforms work, that they aren't a waste of time.
Sure, if you're Epic. For the rest of us minnows, we just have to play the hand we're dealt.
Re: Google Play service fee reduced to 15% for the first $1M/year
#37Worth remembering that as good as it is that Google is reducing it's abusive taxation on third party developers, the primary reason they're doing this is to try to quiet the majority of developers asking for stronger government regulations against this taxation without actually reducing their profit much, since the large companies which bring in the majority of revenue still have to pay full price. Basically, they're…
You know that Android is open source and you can just sideload apps, install a 3rd party app store or replace entire OS with your own ROM right? What, your app/game is not valuable enough to the user to bother with unless it's a single click install without having to enter credit card? Well... Basically - Situation is not at all the same as with iOS - There is too much emphasis on friction-less low value installs and…
Many, _many_ Android phones cannot work with any known custom ROM.
Where's a custom rom for my Blackberry Priv, for instance?
Re: Google Play service fee reduced to 15% for the first $1M/year
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
I imagine that it's speculation but it's reasonable speculation, since maximizing profits is pretty much the sole goal of a publicly traded corporation at the end of the day.
I don't think that supports the speculation since as the GP stated, Google is actually doing the opposite of maximizing profits in this case.
The over $1 million crowd is 98% of their revenue. So in this case they're reducing revenue by about 1%... because they know if they don't, government regulations will take the other 98%.
It's still about maximizing profit, even when they appear to be reducing it.
Re: Google Play service fee reduced to 15% for the first $1M/year
#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Valve [Steam] does this "inverted" model, as of ~ December 2018... It wasn't overly well-received on the PR front -- though I do suspect that it earned them a decent bit of AAA title/publisher credit, heh. Realistically, that's probably where much of the money is at; if anything, props to them for getting away with it.
They had to do this because instead of regulatory pressure, they were feeling the opposite: Competitive options in the PC market. With Steam's high cut, any publisher large enough to make their own launcher should would be incredibly stupid not to do so, which is why Activision, EA, Ubisoft, Bethesda, Epic, etc. all have their own launchers now. And some of them have, or could, start selling third party titles as wel…
Ah yes, the nuisance launchers that hardly anyone wants or uses.
Re: Google Play service fee reduced to 15% for the first $1M/year
#40Worth remembering that as good as it is that Google is reducing it's abusive taxation on third party developers, the primary reason they're doing this is to try to quiet the majority of developers asking for stronger government regulations against this taxation without actually reducing their profit much, since the large companies which bring in the majority of revenue still have to pay full price. Basically, they're…
You know that Android is open source and you can just sideload apps, install a 3rd party app store or replace entire OS with your own ROM right? What, your app/game is not valuable enough to the user to bother with unless it's a single click install without having to enter credit card? Well... Basically - Situation is not at all the same as with iOS - There is too much emphasis on friction-less low value installs and…
A third party app store can not automaticly apply updates to apps. The user has to explictly approve every update. This puts the play store in a privileged position of lower ongoing friction.