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Fitbit is doomed: Here's why everything Google buys turns to garbage (2019)

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Re: Fitbit is doomed: Here's why everything Google buys turns to garbage (2019)

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Here's why it doesn't matter that most things that Google buys turn into Garbage: Android. People just really can't get their heads around a high risk / high reward investment strategy.

...and YouTube

Firebase also survived and has thrived as a brand.

Re: Fitbit is doomed: Here's why everything Google buys turns to garbage (2019)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> does anyone use google flights instead of travelocity Yes, absolutely. I don't even know what Travelocity is :) What surprises me is that people still use Expedia. Agreed, this is probably satire.

Why wouldn't people use Expedia? Honest question. I don't use it a lot; I usually book air and hotel direct. I do use other services as well on occasion but Expedia can be useful for discovery if nothing else.

Last time I used it, you get results shown which eventually you can't buy, and I remember surprising surcharges (like for paying with cc or so). Was so annoyed never used it again.

Re: Fitbit is doomed: Here's why everything Google buys turns to garbage (2019)

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It's certainly possible that Google would kill FitBit, but I have a feeling they're looking far ahead and seeing the potential in being the predominant biometrics company. Biometrics may be the next frontier in how Silicon Valley will make money from our data. Run of the mill internet data mining has been done to death, but if Google can get everyone to wear devices that will provide health data to potential buyers, that seems like a huge win for them.

My suspicion as to why Google hasn't grabbed the accelerator on FitBit just yet is they're waiting for other companies like Oura to prematurely release their next "big thing" before they choose to blow that competition out of the water. There's a lot more that these companies could be doing with their fitness trackers, and it's a matter of who does it first at a large enough volume.

Re: Fitbit is doomed: Here's why everything Google buys turns to garbage (2019)

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What a weird hit piece. The counterpoints are... legion. Youtube? Doubleclick? Android?

youtube has perhaps an even bigger malinformation problem than most social media. doubleclick was purely an anticompetitive acquisition, and was never a net positive for the internet anyway. and they are doing their best to wall in and destroy all the things that made android a good choice over ios, while falling behind in all the areas ios is advancing.

youtube certainly has its problems, but I wouldn't call it garbage. just yesterday I came across this gem [0] that really changed my perception of pop music (I'm one of those people who ordinarily wouldn't listen to anything that plays on the radio). I was taken aback by the level of effort, knowledge, and production that went into it. content like this simply did not exist fifteen years ago.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-XSTSnqXxo

Re: Fitbit is doomed: Here's why everything Google buys turns to garbage (2019)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why wouldn't people use Expedia? Honest question. I don't use it a lot; I usually book air and hotel direct. I do use other services as well on occasion but Expedia can be useful for discovery if nothing else.

Last time I used it, you get results shown which eventually you can't buy, and I remember surprising surcharges (like for paying with cc or so). Was so annoyed never used it again.

They can have some dark patterns but it seems to work well enough for me when I use it.

Re: Fitbit is doomed: Here's why everything Google buys turns to garbage (2019)

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It seems to me like their goal with FitBit is data acquisition. They already have a massive amount of location and purchase information from millions if not billions of people around the planet from Android, Google Search, and YouTube. If they can get information on health status too, they can probably further improve their advertising system to improve ad relevancy. They can use that information to make targeted inv…

Even if Google were to actually sell data (which they don‘t and never have. Selling targeting is way more profitable). They straight up legally couldn’t with health data because of regulation like HIPAA.

Google isn't a HIPAA covered entity in this context. The data gathered by consumer fitness trackers isn't legally considered protected health information under current federal regulation.

Re: Fitbit is doomed: Here's why everything Google buys turns to garbage (2019)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

...and YouTube

Firebase also survived and has thrived as a brand.

As did Waze.

Google maps, google docs and a few others were also bought, but have been integrated and are not considered trash by the majority of people - quite the opposite.

Re: Fitbit is doomed: Here's why everything Google buys turns to garbage (2019)

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I agree and mostly disagree with the article. Youtube was a good buy. Google bought a sat-imaging company that was a good buy. GSuite is good. Android and the Pixel are pretty okay. Google Scholar is dope. There are a lot of things Google is doing well. Google is full and smart people and they have done a lot of good stuff.

They also have struck out a lot on new technology ventures as the article mentions.

I like what Google is doing with their "X, moonshot factory" but I think, again, there are examples of picking strange things to sink a lot of money into (project Loon for instance).

But Google is hardly alone... MS, Yahoo, Facebook, etc. all have their venture failures to counter-balance successes.

Overall I think Google is a well run company and generally knows what they are doing on the balance.

Meanwhile,the article authors works at Zdnet... just saying.

Re: Fitbit is doomed: Here's why everything Google buys turns to garbage (2019)

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Investing any time in a Google project is a risk, given their track record. I think I'm most sad about Project Ara. That seemed genuinely innovative and environmentally responsible. Axing Hangouts means I'll probably have to use Skype/Zoom/. Working with Google on an academic project was terrible. They failed to deliver promised features in Google Earth Engine (i.e. the developers personally promised us). Result: I'm blocked from coding and open sourcing the features myself in another big data platform, and we have a completely unreproducible study because we had to rely on a bunch of awful hacks to get it to run.

https://www.nature.com/articles/nature25181

https://killedbygoogle.com

Re: Fitbit is doomed: Here's why everything Google buys turns to garbage (2019)

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Investing any time in a Google project is a risk, given their track record. I think I'm most sad about Project Ara. That seemed genuinely innovative and environmentally responsible. Axing Hangouts means I'll probably have to use Skype/Zoom/ . Working with Google on an academic project was terrible. They failed to deliver promised features in Google Earth Engine (i.e. the developers personally promised us). Result: I'…

Hangouts is the one I'm most personally frustrated by, too, but what I'd really love to see rise up to replace it is an open protocol with a reference implementation client that's similar to Discord (broadly, anyone can create a "server" that's independent of actual physical servers, each server can have more-or-less arbitrary channels, most importantly both text and voice/video, supporting inlining of images and some other nice modern QoL features that, say, IRC lacks). It frustrates me no end that all our common "modern" communications platforms belong entirely to one company or another, and will only be allowed to exist as long as those companies can continue leveraging them to maintain an income (one way or another).

I've heard some good things about Matrix[0], but I'm even a bit wary of any "open" protocol that's backed by a single for-profit company. However, I don't know of anything out there that's better right now.

The trouble, as always, is getting the people you want to communicate with to agree to use it, too...

[0] https://matrix.org

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