Live data from Hacker News

From Vim to Emacs in fourteen days (2015)

blog.aaronbieber.com

31–40 of 182 posts

Re: From Vim to Emacs in fourteen days (2015)

#31
post #2

Just for fun, here are some of the larger past threads. Others? After over a decade of Vim, I’m hooked on Emacs - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16551796 - March 2018 (161 comments) A pragmatic decision on GNU Emacs versus Vim for programming - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13590944 - Feb 2017 (59 comments) Why I switched from Vim to Emacs - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13130775 - Dec 2016 (101 c…

Emacs vs Vim is like comfort food for software-related online discussions.

Re: From Vim to Emacs in fourteen days (2015)

#32

I’m curious to hear from folks who have switched between the two, and have lasted for more than a year on both. If you’ve learned more than the basics and both became muscle memory, which did you end up sticking to? (Vim user for 23 years, Emacs user of none... but interested because of Lisp)

I have used both daily for over a year (and emacs alone for a few years). Once I was used to vim, I started using evil in emacs. So, at least in reference to muscle memory, I ended up sticking with vim. The thing is, evil is a mostly complete vim implementation. If I were forced to choose one editor, it would definitely be emacs.

Re: From Vim to Emacs in fourteen days (2015)

#33
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't use evil mode, but I don't see how it could kill any of the upside of Emacs, which has very little to do with keybindings.

I was assuming it introduced things more meaningful than keybindings, like separate command and insert modes. I am not an EMACS user.

It does:) that does not conflict with emacs in general :]

Re: From Vim to Emacs in fourteen days (2015)

#34
Vim is my go-to terminal-based text editor, and I used it for a decent amount of time, but when I finally decided to switch to something like Sublime Text, I never felt the need to go back.

Maybe it's because I'm not a "touch typist" who uses a home row and all that stuff, so the keybindings optimized for that don't really help me that much.

I do like Vim though, and it's an insanely useful skill to have because I can SSH into any server and edit config files like if I were straight up programming.

Re: From Vim to Emacs in fourteen days (2015)

#35

I’m curious to hear from folks who have switched between the two, and have lasted for more than a year on both. If you’ve learned more than the basics and both became muscle memory, which did you end up sticking to? (Vim user for 23 years, Emacs user of none... but interested because of Lisp)

I'll just say if you want to do Common Lisp, vim works fine, so don't let that hold you back from pursuing your interest. The slimv plugin is good. (Some people also like vlime better. To be honest I've had some buggy experiences with both, I suggest try both and pick what you like. vlime has one debugging improvement in that you don't need to manually call (swank-backend:restart-frame N).)

I'd like to give emacs one more chance, but haven't gotten around to it. Last time I tried Spacemacs (for about a month, sorry not a year) and ultimately didn't like it, I'm planning on trying Doom Emacs next.

Re: From Vim to Emacs in fourteen days (2015)

#36
post #34

Vim is my go-to terminal-based text editor, and I used it for a decent amount of time, but when I finally decided to switch to something like Sublime Text, I never felt the need to go back. Maybe it's because I'm not a "touch typist" who uses a home row and all that stuff, so the keybindings optimized for that don't really help me that much. I do like Vim though, and it's an insanely useful skill to have because I ca…

You can enable Vintage Mode in Sublime Text to get the best of both worlds.

Re: From Vim to Emacs in fourteen days (2015)

#37

This article fails to explain -why- one would want to switch to emacs from vim. Org-mode and configuring emacs in a lisp-like are cool, but are not worth re-learning everything for me. I put that time in already by reading "Practical Vim" by Drew Neil and other vim literature online. I'm sure everyone is already aware, but vi is available basically everywhere. This has saved my ass at least twice where I couldn't acc…

I just use emacs+evil for org only. Org is feature rich (bloated?) but these dynamic code blocks in documents are just too good.

I prefer vim for everything else and the general "minimalist" approach in particular. Emacs seems to appeal to people who like to do everything within one tool.

Re: From Vim to Emacs in fourteen days (2015)

#38
post #5
post #3

> If, like me, you’re curious enough to give Emacs a try... So curiosity rather than conversion. Six year later is he still using Emacs? Went back to Vim? Moved on to something else? I have enough years invested in muscle memory of Vim itself and various plugins that what curiosity I have about Emacs is well controlled. I doubt I have runway left to get to the same productivity in another editor.

An interesting path is to go from regular emacs to emacs with vim bindings, which is what I did, also in around 14 days. Its painful, but good for you brain. And you get the best of both worlds, or so I like to think.

I tried that too for a bit over two weeks. In the end I had a comfortable configuration, but with noticably worse performance and a lot of inconsistencies. Whenever I use Emacs I kind of like the concept but at the same time feel like the good parts are buried beneath countless random additions that should have been optional plugins. I dare to claim that >95% of Emacs users do not use its integrated Tetris implementation, for example.

Re: From Vim to Emacs in fourteen days (2015)

#39
For those who use Vim bindings, and would like to try out emacs, I'd suggest trying Spacemacs:

https://www.spacemacs.org/

It has "evil mode" by default — the vim bindings.

I picked this up at Jane Street, where much of the internal tooling is in emacs. I still use it wherever I can't get a good vscode setup, and it has some advantages over vscode.

Post reply on HN