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Flipper Zero: Tamagochi for Hackers

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Re: Flipper Zero: Tamagochi for Hackers

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Post by Rebelgecko »

devit wrote: post #21

Wouldn't a software defined radio transceiver be more effective for this task? (so you can eavesdrop and interfere with any radio system) Or are they too bulky/expensive to fit in a portable device?

I've seen SDRs that are roughly this size but they're the TV tuner ones that don't necessarily work well across a range of frequencies (not sure about specifics, but I imagine Bluetooth is pushing it). Some of the Flipper's advertised capabilities (infrared, NFC, RFID, 1-wire) are also beyond the scope of SDRs.

Re: Flipper Zero: Tamagochi for Hackers

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Post by rtkwe »

bri3d wrote: post #18
cjoh wrote: post #14

I’m not particularly familiar with FCC law, but don’t they tend to... not approve things like this? Not being sarcastic, honest question.

The FCC care about emissions criteria in various frequency bands. They are worried about undue interference with other devices caused by incorrect use of spectrum or inadequate and poorly made transmission equipment, not protocol level reverse engineering concerns. If Flipper can supply a device to an FCC approved testing lab which passes the emission criteria in the emitted bands, I don't see why they couldn't get a…

The other option is pre-approved modules. IIRC if you're using drop in daughter boards you can generally skip additional FCC approval because the thing actually transmitting is pre-approved.

Re: Flipper Zero: Tamagochi for Hackers

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Post by qbasic_forever »

devit wrote: post #21

Wouldn't a software defined radio transceiver be more effective for this task? (so you can eavesdrop and interfere with any radio system) Or are they too bulky/expensive to fit in a portable device?

Interfering with a system over RF is going to get the FCC and authorities after you very quickly. The law is very broad and hand-wavey here, a lot of innocent fun could be interpreted as something worthy of a felony.

Re: Flipper Zero: Tamagochi for Hackers

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Post by saul_goodman »

cgb223 wrote: post #23
ObsoleteNerd wrote: post #5

Is this anything more than a pipedream at this point? I've seen it come up multiple times over the last year, and yet a quick skim through the Github shows that there's not really anything done other than some basic planning/brainstorming. Seems a bit early to be taking preorders.

Is there a different tool that’s available now in non-tomagochi form that accomplishes more or less the same features?

I have most of the parts to do the individual tasks this thing is supposed to do. What I don't have is the time or desire to whip it all up into a functional tool including a display, buttons, etc. It doesn't do anything that you can't do right now with parts available from SparkFun/Ada Fruit/etc. It's the form factor and interface that makes it desirable.

In fact the form factor is too sexy for its own good in that it made it so desirable it has slowed down development as they had to go backwards in development to include several kitchen sink features that should have been left behind. But hey I'll take an extra kitchen sink when it comes.

Re: Flipper Zero: Tamagochi for Hackers

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Post by reidjs »

neilv wrote: post #29
ObsoleteNerd wrote: post #5

Is this anything more than a pipedream at this point? I've seen it come up multiple times over the last year, and yet a quick skim through the Github shows that there's not really anything done other than some basic planning/brainstorming. Seems a bit early to be taking preorders.

I participated in the Kickstarter last year, along with a gazillion other people, and am waiting patiently for my Flipper Zero pet. They asked the Kickstarter funders a month or so ago for their CC numbers for shipping cost, as well as shipping address, color preference, and any additional accessory&unit orders. But I don't know how soon the main production run will happen. (I did find that a little funny: the idea o…

I always thought it was odd that people are afraid of giving away their CC# but willingly give away their browsing/shopping history, home address, phone, etc.

My CC has fraud protection, and I can always get a replacement. all those other things have 0 protection and are not easily changed, especially home address.

Re: Flipper Zero: Tamagochi for Hackers

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Post by daniel_iversen »

cgb223 wrote: post #23
ObsoleteNerd wrote: post #5

Is this anything more than a pipedream at this point? I've seen it come up multiple times over the last year, and yet a quick skim through the Github shows that there's not really anything done other than some basic planning/brainstorming. Seems a bit early to be taking preorders.

Is there a different tool that’s available now in non-tomagochi form that accomplishes more or less the same features?

It says they took some inspiration from the DIY pwnagotchi [https://pwnagotchi.ai/]
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