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Apple’s no better than anyone else when it comes to UX

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Re: Apple’s no better than anyone else when it comes to UX

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Bullshit headline. The article is about just one UI issue. Not any kind of comparative analysis of UX.

It's usually advisable to just flag and not respond to low quality submissions, don't take the bait. This one might get some good discussion at least, or it might not.

Taking the bait would be to discuss the title without calling bullshit on it.

That’s the point.

Re: Apple’s no better than anyone else when it comes to UX

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Not the most egregious but three examples: If you're using CarPlay, there is a phone call and you pick up, CarPlay changes the entire screen to the phone call (which is just the profile pic of the person you're talking to), even if you're using Maps or anything else. Everything has a different way to be closed or go back to the previous screen. Sometimes you swipe up, sometimes to the left, sometimes there is a back…

>Everything has a different way to be closed or go back to the previous screen. Sometimes you swipe up, sometimes to the left, sometimes there is a back arrow in the top left, sometimes there is a X in the top right. When to do what is often not clear, and there is no universal "go back" action that seems to work either. I can think of one extremely annoying exception that was definitely an oversight, but generally t…

> Not everything makes sense to be in a left-to-right stack. The windows that pop up from the bottom are supposed to have a different purpose (usually have a "Close" button) vs the nav stack that have a back button

I agree. I think what I'm getting at with that is less about how you structure your app, and more about my frustration that there is no universal way of going back. If the developer forgets to implement a back button, suddenly I can get stuck on a step and having to restart the app. In a non-iOS app UI (like desktop GTK, browsers, Windows UI or anything really) it's always really obvious that I can press the OS hotkey to go back, or press backspace/escape to get back to where I was before.

Re: Apple’s no better than anyone else when it comes to UX

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It's hardly baiting when I submitted the article myself and actually respond to comments. My girlfriend isn't technical, and she trusts me more than she trusts big businesses, shockingly. Her messages are Signal backups so I couldn't read them even if I wanted to, and she happily shares her millions of photos of animals with me anyway. She's the emergency contact for my offsite backup service if anything should happe…

I'll repeat (for the third time) my earlier advice. Don't feed trolls, just flag my comments and move on. As for the rest you posted, I've only made the claim that you were very smart, that's it. If you want to project all this stuff about sexism and people quality, I don't know anything about that. Thanks for the enjoyable conversation though, gave me a good chuckle. Cheers!

> I'll repeat (for the third time) my earlier advice. Don't feed trolls, just flag my comments and move on.

lmao, imagine being an idiot on the internet and still trying to pretend you somehow have the moral high ground

Re: Apple’s no better than anyone else when it comes to UX

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Care to share even 1 or 2 of the most egregious off the top of your head? Edit: Thanks all. I have to disagree that "Apple's no better than anyone else when it comes to UX" -- I think they are better but also make a lot of annoying mistakes. UX is hard, doubly so when you have such popular devices that try to cater towards so many different groups (children, techies, common folks, older non-tech savvy, etc). No one m…

Not the most egregious but three examples: If you're using CarPlay, there is a phone call and you pick up, CarPlay changes the entire screen to the phone call (which is just the profile pic of the person you're talking to), even if you're using Maps or anything else. Everything has a different way to be closed or go back to the previous screen. Sometimes you swipe up, sometimes to the left, sometimes there is a back…

>Everything has a different way to be closed or go back to the previous screen. Sometimes you swipe up, sometimes to the left, sometimes there is a back arrow in the top left, sometimes there is a X in the top right. When to do what is often not clear, and there is no universal "go back" action that seems to work either.

Very true. I moved from Android to iPhone few months ago and even through the current iPhone I use (iPhone 11) is smaller than my Android device (Samsung S20 Plus), I can't use it with one hand.

Re: Apple’s no better than anyone else when it comes to UX

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Oh but there is more, a lot more. I've mostly been a Android owner but some years ago I got an iPhone instead. The glaring UX issues everywhere are hard to ignore. I just started documenting everyday, so I can share it in the future. But there is definitely more than just one issue with Apples UX and UI.

Care to share even 1 or 2 of the most egregious off the top of your head? Edit: Thanks all. I have to disagree that "Apple's no better than anyone else when it comes to UX" -- I think they are better but also make a lot of annoying mistakes. UX is hard, doubly so when you have such popular devices that try to cater towards so many different groups (children, techies, common folks, older non-tech savvy, etc). No one m…

Every alarm clock app in Android lets you edit the time when you just tap the time in the list of alarms. But iOS does nothing on tapping the time. We have to click `Edit` from top left, then tap the time to edit it. I don't how this qualifies as great UX. I recently moved from Android to iOS and there are lot of annoyances like this all over the phone.
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