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Girls perform better academically in almost all countries (2015)

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Re: Girls perform better academically in almost all countries (2015)

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Anyone with young boys and girls will notice that girls are much more likely to obey rules and instructions. A lot of doing well in school is about following rules and instructions, and it seems pretty natural that girls will do better.

Also, most teachers are women. I haven't checked, but I'd assume most school administrators are women. It seems natural that they'd construct a system that's more suited for females than males.

Re: Girls perform better academically in almost all countries (2015)

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How is it possible that girls perform better academically (in 2015) yet are under represented in the top tier of jobs? Either women have no interest in money, academic skills have no bearing in getting high paying jobs, or discrimination is more prevalent then you’d think. I suppose all three could be true.

I don’t know how true this is, but one thing I’ve seen referenced a few times is that students perform better under teachers of their gender, especially at younger ages. It wouldn’t be hard to imagine the same applies for employee performance in the workplace.

If that were true, given that K-12 teachers are overwhelmingly female, then you would expect females to do better in school. Conversely I believe managerial jobs skew male, which you would expect to benefit the performance of males in such workplaces.

Again I don’t have a study handy so I’m not sure how empirical that is, it may just be conjecture.

Re: Girls perform better academically in almost all countries (2015)

#33
This title seems click baity we should be asking the question as to why our system allows one gender to outperform the other. Not blanket statements of correlation == causation.

Something is clearly wrong with our system which is resulting in one gender receiving more support. The distribution curve should mostly be equal, yes we are different gender wise. But for large majority of people our brains function mostly the same (it’s not like girls are a different species than boys).

Re: Girls perform better academically in almost all countries (2015)

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How is it possible that girls perform better academically (in 2015) yet are under represented in the top tier of jobs? Either women have no interest in money, academic skills have no bearing in getting high paying jobs, or discrimination is more prevalent then you’d think. I suppose all three could be true.

Because women naturally list towards jobs that pay less, and under conditions that pay less (part time, contract work, etc). How many deep sea welders are women? Less than 0.1%. How many oil rig workers are women? Less than 1%. Good deep sea welders earn over $300k.

I don't think those are what the parent was referring to as 'top tier'. Those pay well, but in both cases they are highly paid because of risk and life disruption (having to spend extended time away from home on rigs). It's my understanding that men are naturally less risk-averse, so the gender differences there seem natural to me.

I'm betting they meant CEO positions, board positions, and high ranking corporate officers.

Re: Girls perform better academically in almost all countries (2015)

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This is anecdotal but I'm sure many people are seen this increasingly. In the past 10 years on the job, I'm seeing more guys make jokes about how stupid they are. Every time they make a single mistake they say "oh my God, if my head wasn't attached to my shoulders..."

Then it becomes a competition of who has done the dumbest thing. I know it's just being playful, but you rarely see the opposite.

Turn the tables, I was in a meeting with a male and female coworker. The guy was saying how stupid he was, and the female stopped him and said: You shouldn't say that about yourself, in a serious tone.

I don't ever remember a girl telling me how dumb she is.

Re: Girls perform better academically in almost all countries (2015)

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How is it possible that girls perform better academically (in 2015) yet are under represented in the top tier of jobs? Either women have no interest in money, academic skills have no bearing in getting high paying jobs, or discrimination is more prevalent then you’d think. I suppose all three could be true.

I don't understand why people ignore the role children play in the life ambitions of women.

Re: Girls perform better academically in almost all countries (2015)

#39

How is it possible that girls perform better academically (in 2015) yet are under represented in the top tier of jobs? Either women have no interest in money, academic skills have no bearing in getting high paying jobs, or discrimination is more prevalent then you’d think. I suppose all three could be true.

In part, because salary has to do with agreeableness and many cultures have stupid expectations for women such as them expected to be more agreeable.

Also, the likelihood of career advancement is lower for people perceived as being more neurotic, and many cultures have stereotypes consisting of women being more neurotic than men.

Re: Girls perform better academically in almost all countries (2015)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because women naturally list towards jobs that pay less, and under conditions that pay less (part time, contract work, etc). How many deep sea welders are women? Less than 0.1%. How many oil rig workers are women? Less than 1%. Good deep sea welders earn over $300k.

Define “naturally”.

Meaning on average, most women list towards them. There are large differences between genders in terms of career motivations, interests etc. Proven in many studies repeatedly.
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