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Solzhenitsyn’s Rosary (2016)

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Re: Solzhenitsyn’s Rosary (2016)

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Memorization is largely vilified in American schooling, and for good reason. But I think if not abused, it is an excellent form of (self-) learning not at all devoid of near meditative qualities. There something special about committing things to memory, especially verses.

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The Gulag Archipelago is one of those pieces I wish everyone would read. These days the lessons of socialism and communism are lost on a younger generation that seems blind to what Marxism led to, and how much suffering and death it caused. The ideologies behind these government systems require authoritarianism, from the state and the mob. It requires a single ideology to win with everything else stamped out, and thi…

Solzhenitsyn’s In The First Circle is also important for people in the tech industry to read. The book takes place in a Sharashka, a prison-within-the-prison-system for talented engineers who get (marginally) better food and conditions in exchange for doing the State's bidding.

The sad part is that they end up rather excitedly reinforcing the very regime that put them there and, towards the end, are instrumental in thwarting one of their country's best hopes at throwing off the yoke of Stalinism.

If you do read it, make sure you get the uncensored version. The chapter making fun of Stalin's working habits is hilarious.

Re: Solzhenitsyn’s Rosary (2016)

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The Gulag Archipelago is one of those pieces I wish everyone would read. These days the lessons of socialism and communism are lost on a younger generation that seems blind to what Marxism led to, and how much suffering and death it caused. The ideologies behind these government systems require authoritarianism, from the state and the mob. It requires a single ideology to win with everything else stamped out, and thi…

Solzhenitsyn's name has come up several times in various things I've read this month. I don't think it's a coincidence. I purchased his book off Amazon a few weeks ago, thinking it wouldn't be long until they started delisting books. Now all this nonsense with Dr. Seuss. One quote, loosely paraphrased from another book I'm struggling to finish -- an interview with survivors of post WW2 totalitarianism. One of them wa…

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Re: Solzhenitsyn’s Rosary (2016)

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The comment you are replying to was rife with absolute inaccuracies. I can assure you you won't get anywhere trying to argue against that person. Solzhenitsyn was imprisoned by Stalin because while on the front lines fighting against the Nazis he wrote a letter that was intercepted with statements in it critical of Stalin's poor execution in supplying the army. The parent commenter doesn't even get this basic fact ri…

What part is inaccurate and where did I say anything contradicting what you're saying? I've studied Russian history for many years. We know much more about the gulags since Glasnost and the opening of the archives. We can now compare actual numbers against Solzhenitsyn's. I've studied this quite a bit and could go on forever, but here's a link to one post on AskHistorians: https://old.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comme…

Your comment was a littany of attempts at character assassination largely unrelated to the work in question. The idea that Russian gulags were "just a prison" is a ridiculous characterization that no historian would agree with. They were prisons for political prisoners, who were there warehoused there to keep them from speaking out against the regime, and they were put there without due process of law. The idea that that is even remotely comparable to the American judicial system is just completely ahistorical Stalinist apologism.

Re: Solzhenitsyn’s Rosary (2016)

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Memorization is largely vilified in American schooling, and for good reason. But I think if not abused, it is an excellent form of (self-) learning not at all devoid of near meditative qualities. There something special about committing things to memory, especially verses.

You have a very interesting insight here -- now that I think about it, I see it. But I'm not sure I agree that it is for a good reason. Intuitive understanding of math is better than rote memorization. But that does not mean that rote memorization is bad, only lesser. I'm also not convinced that many people can grasp something intuitively, bypassing rote memorization.

It’s also been noted that basically all great mathematicians are excellent at basic maths (memorized timetables) and can remember many numbers and can calculate in head quickly —— even though technically shouldn’t be necessary for proofs

Re: Solzhenitsyn’s Rosary (2016)

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Memorization is largely vilified in American schooling, and for good reason. But I think if not abused, it is an excellent form of (self-) learning not at all devoid of near meditative qualities. There something special about committing things to memory, especially verses.

I had experience with both American schooling and European one where memorization was a big part of the learning. I was struggling to memorize things. The American way worked perfectly for me. I think that schools should not encourage memorization.

A learning process where you remember all the facts and recite them exactly, you get a good grade is bad. That doesn't mean you actually understand and can apply your knowledge. There was this article on HN a couple of days ago about the medical paper where the author had reinvented the integral. That's the result of too much memorization.

Re: Solzhenitsyn’s Rosary (2016)

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I purchased his book off Amazon a few weeks ago, thinking it wouldn't be long until they started delisting books. Now all this nonsense with Dr. Seuss. Except it was the copyright holder of the Dr. Seuss books that decided to withdraw these books. Not the government or sellers like Amazon. It's more of an argument for reducing the length of copyright in the US rather than some sort of ominous supression of free spe…

The copyright holder didn't delist the books, eBay did. From wsj: > Online marketplace eBay Inc. said it is working to prevent the resale of six Dr. Seuss books that were pulled earlier this week by the company in charge of the late author’s works because they contain offensive imagery.

“pulled by the company in charge of the late authors work”. I’d say that is the copyright holder.

Re: Solzhenitsyn’s Rosary (2016)

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What part is inaccurate and where did I say anything contradicting what you're saying? I've studied Russian history for many years. We know much more about the gulags since Glasnost and the opening of the archives. We can now compare actual numbers against Solzhenitsyn's. I've studied this quite a bit and could go on forever, but here's a link to one post on AskHistorians: https://old.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comme…

Your comment was a littany of attempts at character assassination largely unrelated to the work in question. The idea that Russian gulags were "just a prison" is a ridiculous characterization that no historian would agree with. They were prisons for political prisoners , who were there warehoused there to keep them from speaking out against the regime, and they were put there without due process of law. The idea that…

A relatively small percentage were political prisoners, but when you compare the number of people who have received very lengthy sentences for minor drug possession, in some cases life, how is that any better? Not to mention Jim Crow in the US at the time. We have the largest prison population in the world by a considerable margin. Most of the people in our jails and prisons are there for drug offenses and crimes of poverty.

The US has a far larger prison population as a percentage of total population right now than the Soviet Union did even at the height of Stalin's purges. We have access to the Soviet archives now. We have actual numbers on these things.

Re: Solzhenitsyn’s Rosary (2016)

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The Gulag Archipelago is one of those pieces I wish everyone would read. These days the lessons of socialism and communism are lost on a younger generation that seems blind to what Marxism led to, and how much suffering and death it caused. The ideologies behind these government systems require authoritarianism, from the state and the mob. It requires a single ideology to win with everything else stamped out, and thi…

Solzhenitsyn’s In The First Circle is also important for people in the tech industry to read. The book takes place in a Sharashka , a prison-within-the-prison-system for talented engineers who get (marginally) better food and conditions in exchange for doing the State's bidding. The sad part is that they end up rather excitedly reinforcing the very regime that put them there and, towards the end, are instrumental in…

And if anyone decides to read this, please make sure you read In The First Circle, not The First Circle. The latter is the "first" publication, which Solzhenitsyn abridged and modified, because he did not think that the true work would make it past the Soviet minders. In The First Circle is the true work, as Solzhenitsyn intended.
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