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HP TouchPad: Shipping July 1

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Re: HP TouchPad: Shipping July 1

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Post by modernerd »

ansy wrote: post #15
smackfu wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Step 1 to get your free TouchPad: get to Paris or Berlin.

A company the size of HP can afford to give away piles of TouchPads and Pres to developers that might be mildly interested. HP should have somebody hunting down the twitter accounts of prolific app developers and mailing out starter packs of hardware. Google has been handing out hardware left and right and doesn't seem to be slowing down one bit.

Where can I find out more about the free hardware that Google are offering mildly interested developers? It sounds great.

Re: HP TouchPad: Shipping July 1

#32

Post by [deleted] »

ansy wrote: post #15
smackfu wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Step 1 to get your free TouchPad: get to Paris or Berlin.

A company the size of HP can afford to give away piles of TouchPads and Pres to developers that might be mildly interested. HP should have somebody hunting down the twitter accounts of prolific app developers and mailing out starter packs of hardware. Google has been handing out hardware left and right and doesn't seem to be slowing down one bit.

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Re: HP TouchPad: Shipping July 1

#33

Post by SoftwareMaven »

desigooner wrote: post #13
marklabedz wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In principle I agree, however, much has been made of Apple's buying power when it comes to key components (displays, solid state storage, etc). Apple may well have the lowest actual component cost.

I understand the fact about Apple's buying power. But when someone is trying to compete with an established product, you gotta offer something more at some price less to get people to even look at it! It's going to be interesting to see how the HP Touchpad & Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 do in the next few months. However, the real competition will start when Amazon jumps into the market with their rumored Kal-El tablets l…

The dollars don't matter so much. eBay matters is that you are seen providing better value (which may indue cost). Unfortunately, with the WWDC announcements, it really doesn't look like HP has a better value.

They need something more to compete if they don't want it to be a race to the bottom with Chinese, Taiwanese, and South Korean vendors.

Re: HP TouchPad: Shipping July 1

#34

Post by megaman821 »

Killah911 wrote: post #21

"Touch to Share capability for sharing web addresses between HP TouchPad and compatible webOS phones" I'm sure all 5 people who still have the palm pre can barely contain their excitement... Seriously, what's HP thinking? I think the Palm Pre came out with more fanfare, and that didn't turn out that great. If all that really differrentiates HP's tablet from the iPad is the OS, well, quite frankly, it's been done befo…

Palm made the mistake of not realizing fanfare isn't the same as distribution. Touchpads are going to be available at Amazon.com, HP.com, BestBuy, Walmart, Sam's Club, OfficeMax and several others within two weeks of launch, not to mention the international push. The Pre was stuck on the nation's 3rd largest network for like 6 months. It really had no chance of competing with current offerings on AT&T and Verizon being that old.

Re: HP TouchPad: Shipping July 1

#35

Post by dstein »

I think HP's marketing is wrong, they shouldn't be touting the WebOS operating system so much because ordinary people don't care. The operating system is irrelevant in this type of device. In fact, I think something along the lines of Google's ChromeOS is the right operating system for a tablet -- an ultralight web-browsing only device with cloud-connected filesystem for downloads/photos/movies etc. It's the only type of device that I foresee being able to really compete against the iPad.

Re: HP TouchPad: Shipping July 1

#36

Post by dwforbes »

junklight wrote: post #3

Well it looks like they have already done something better than all their non-Apple competitors - instead of rushing it out half finished they seem to have waited until it's done. Given the biggest complaint about webos on the phone was the power of the processor this stands a good chance of being a nice product. fingers crossed for them (I'm unlikely to give up my iPad given iCloud now but there really should be a d…

You sure have managed to fit a lot of bias into such a short message. You're also quite certain that a product that no one has reviewed is "done", while giving no leave to competitors.

Honeycomb tablets are fantastic devices for most users, and the tablet-targeted operating system is quite well done.

Re: HP TouchPad: Shipping July 1

#37

Post by wisty »

desigooner wrote: post #13
marklabedz wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In principle I agree, however, much has been made of Apple's buying power when it comes to key components (displays, solid state storage, etc). Apple may well have the lowest actual component cost.

I understand the fact about Apple's buying power. But when someone is trying to compete with an established product, you gotta offer something more at some price less to get people to even look at it! It's going to be interesting to see how the HP Touchpad & Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 do in the next few months. However, the real competition will start when Amazon jumps into the market with their rumored Kal-El tablets l…

Nope, it's not possible to offer more for less. Apple is a "good" monopoly, that passes their saving onto customers.

The only way to beat them is to attack from below. Make a tablet that is only good for browsing the web. Maybe add a few cheap features like a camera and GPS, but skimp on expensive features like storage.

If you really want to be cool, add some kind of console controls, so teenagers can play games. Maybe even add some sort of social element - allow them to connect to each other through USB, and play arcade games.

Or attack some other niche that Apple don't own. You could add a bunch of graphics calculator functions, and target students. Just be careful you don't do anything that a $3 App won't do.

Price it at half the price of an iPad, and hope you gain a toehold.

Re: HP TouchPad: Shipping July 1

#38

Post by jimmyk »

megaman821 wrote: post #34
Killah911 wrote: post #21

"Touch to Share capability for sharing web addresses between HP TouchPad and compatible webOS phones" I'm sure all 5 people who still have the palm pre can barely contain their excitement... Seriously, what's HP thinking? I think the Palm Pre came out with more fanfare, and that didn't turn out that great. If all that really differrentiates HP's tablet from the iPad is the OS, well, quite frankly, it's been done befo…

Palm made the mistake of not realizing fanfare isn't the same as distribution. Touchpads are going to be available at Amazon.com, HP.com, BestBuy, Walmart, Sam's Club, OfficeMax and several others within two weeks of launch, not to mention the international push. The Pre was stuck on the nation's 3rd largest network for like 6 months. It really had no chance of competing with current offerings on AT&T and Verizon bei…

Yup, and it took me over two months to get a Pre after it came out. And I was the first to get one from that Sprint store.

Re: HP TouchPad: Shipping July 1

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Post by freshrap6 »

As a webOS fan/user/developer I'm happy to hear this. It's a big step forward for the platform. Sadly though what I really need is a new phone. Where is the pre 3, when is that going to be release? A new phone would do much more for me right now than a tablet.

Re: HP TouchPad: Shipping July 1

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Post by jimmyk »

WrkInProgress wrote: post #8
MatthewPhillips wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

WebOS notifications are nice because you can swipe away individual notifications. But they also take up more screen than on Android (which matters because Palm/HP loves tiny phones). I'd say it's a push overall.

It would be really nice if they have a notification tray (or rather a summary area). That would make it the best notification system on any current platform. Right now, once you swipe the notifications away, there's no single place to go and view those notifications. I can't recall if it still keeps a small reminder icon on the bottom. Ideally, swipe left to dismiss, swipe right to dismiss for now (still listed in th…

> I can't recall if it still keeps a small reminder icon on the bottom.

It does this if you don't swipe it away and you interact with some other app. So, if I'm writing an emial and a text message comes in, it will show up with the full notification, but if I touch the email again, it will show the tiny reminder icon.

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