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A truck driver uncovers secrets about the first nuclear bombs

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Re: A truck driver uncovers secrets about the first nuclear bombs

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The barrel is part of the casing, necessary for a sustained reaction.

True, but does the barrel need to be a cylinder? That is, couldn’t the casing be a sphere with a hole cut out and a cylinder inserted? I suppose this could be much less pleasant to machine and to service.

No, but they wanted the first bomb to be simple enough in principle not to need any debugging.

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The plutonium cores were machined as hemispheres because they had to put an initiator in the center.

Also to prevent criticality problems when moving them.

This is correct.

There were squib explosions in various assembly and disassembly buildings when too many pits were put on the same cart.

One I read about destroyed an entire building, plus damaged the buildings on either side. A worker noticed a blue glow beforehand, and I think all the workers were able to run far enough away to survive the explosion(s).

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New Yorker, I found, is always obtuse, long-winded prose that fill up 14 pages where the whole thing can be, if it was written like a normal article, summarized in no more than 3 pages. It is prose porn for writers and readers alike. If I want good prose, I read the the Cabinet Magazine which is far superior in writing, curtness and straightforwardness while not affecting the charming and poetical aspects of writing.…

I don't even need to read the article to know this is going to be a long winded piece of popular bullshit. Just look at the title, manages to demean and belittle an entire industry that is entirely required for a functioning economy and society. Y'all wonder why blue collar America thinks we're stuck up entitled pricks? Maybe it's because we are.

yep I thought like that too. I don't know truck drivers, but the way the title is put, it seems to oppose the "genius" of a nuclear bomb to, well, a mere truck driver. I'm not entirely sure the people behind the bomb were smarter than a truck driver. The human qualities needed to decide to work on a bomb or not, which to me is infinitely stronger than what it takes to be a physicist or mathematician, can be found as well in a truck driver...

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I think Chrome is the only browser left without a reader view.

chrome://flags/#enable-reader-mode

A way to enable a reader mode has come and gone over the years, always "in testing." That's not the same as a first class feature, and it's clear they have no intention of making it available by default. Defaults matter.

In case you doubt this, here's an article from 2014 on how to enable the perpetually newly-added hidden reader mode: https://lifehacker.com/enable-the-new-hidden-reader-mode-in-...

Re: A truck driver uncovers secrets about the first nuclear bombs

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I got this guy's "book" off Amazon back when he was taking them to Kinko's to be printed up. His is a fairly remarkable story of curiosity which I have always enjoyed. He even signed it for me. What is not often pointed out is that he managed to reason his way into understanding to various points, and the process of doing so revealed information that is otherwise still classified. As a teen in Las Vegas in the 70's w…

There is significant amounts of classified information already available publicly in documentaries etc. This is readily acknowledged by people at the labs who Ive chatted with, though I didnt push to probe specifics. Much of the secret sauce at the time (knowing the cross sections for various processes, reflecting neutrons etc) that enabled the design of working weapons is all well understood and publicly known now and unclassified. Other than the artisanship needed to make the high explosives do what you want, the only meaningful barier is enrichment.

Re: A truck driver uncovers secrets about the first nuclear bombs

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>> Fat Man used explosives to squeeze together two hemispheres of plutonium. I thought the plutonium core was one piece and the explosives compressed it, making the same mass critical due to increased density.

> I thought the plutonium core was one piece...

While other responses have explained it was not, I thought I should point out that any sphere, even if a single piece, will always have at least two hemispheres, iow, a sphere having two hemispheres does not imply it is more than one piece. When you leaned of the Earth's northern and southern hemispheres, did you wonder if it was more than one piece?

Re: A truck driver uncovers secrets about the first nuclear bombs

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> In the standard historical accounts, the way that the bomb’s gun mechanism worked was by shooting a cylindrical “male” uranium projectile into a concave, stationary uranium target. This act of atomic coitus created a mass sufficient to produce a critical reaction. The mass of the projectile was said to be 38.5 kilograms, and the mass of the target was said to be 25.6 kilograms. But no matter how many times Coster-M…

You have a gun barrel, some of the toughest steel around, which required to contain the supercritical mass long enough to allow for an efficient chain reaction. You stick a cone shaped object down the open end of the gun, and weld, or screw it into place with enough mechanical strength to stop an artillery round and keep it from exiting. More than 1/2 of the critical mass is likely here, with the air gap around it helping to keep the neutron flux low, for the time being. It is likely there is a neutron initiator on the very tip of the conical slug projecting into the barrel. (Think of shoving a ice cream cone into a pipe, narrow end first)

On the breech end, you insert a large "hollow point" slug of the rest of the critical mass. (an empty ice cream cone, open end first) The hole in the middle helps keep the neutron flux low, for now. Following this slug is the cordite explosive which will push the slug down the barrel at great speed.

The charge is set off, the slug rushes down the barrel, and gets wedged against the sides, in the process it breaks the neutron initiator, crushing it, and setting off a rush of neutrons, into the now complete, supercritical mass. The temperatures and pressures in the gun barrel begin to rise exponentially as the chain reaction takes off, within microseconds it is just the inertia of the barrel that helps keep things in place, the melting and even vaporization temperatures have been passed, but the contents have yet to disassemble completely, the chain reaction reaches its peak as the temperature climbs past 50,000,000 degrees, and then everything spreads outwards, 7/10ths of a gram of mass (the weight of about 3 rain drops) has been converted to energy, yielding the explosive yield equivalent of 15,000 tons of TNT.

Re: A truck driver uncovers secrets about the first nuclear bombs

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I got this guy's "book" off Amazon back when he was taking them to Kinko's to be printed up. His is a fairly remarkable story of curiosity which I have always enjoyed. He even signed it for me. What is not often pointed out is that he managed to reason his way into understanding to various points, and the process of doing so revealed information that is otherwise still classified. As a teen in Las Vegas in the 70's w…

There is significant amounts of classified information already available publicly in documentaries etc. This is readily acknowledged by people at the labs who Ive chatted with, though I didnt push to probe specifics. Much of the secret sauce at the time (knowing the cross sections for various processes, reflecting neutrons etc) that enabled the design of working weapons is all well understood and publicly known now a…

The interesting part for me, per the nondisclosure and federal law, is that there can be classified information "out there" but that doesn't declassify it! It isn't like technology NDAs where, if you have signed one, you can talk about the secret sauce if it gets disclosed through no fault of your own. Not so with the US Government!

For example, even if "everyone" knows how fast an SR-71 can fly, that number is still classified. And if you have a clearance you can't talk about it because it is classified and you know its classified. So it is illegal for you to talk about its top speed. This is another good reason to avoid getting a government clearance if it can be avoided.

Re: A truck driver uncovers secrets about the first nuclear bombs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the first "public" descriptions of this process was phrased something like: "shooting a mass of uranium down a barrel into another mass of uranium to form a supercritical mass." My guess is that the person who first said that didn't intend for the metaphor/description to be taken quite as literally as everyone ended up taking it. (Or they meant to mislead.) Hypothetically, if you read "into" as crash/collision…

> My guess is that the person who first said that didn't intend for the metaphor/description to be taken quite as literally as everyone ended up taking it. (Or they meant to mislead.) This is the problem. Why are they trying to shoehorn male or female dominance here? The whole thing is not only unpleasant to read, but also confusing.

They are not "trying to shoehorn male or female dominance here"

They are describing the shapes, and the orientations of the projectiles in terms of coital positions - with which, um, some percentage of the adult population has some familiarity.

Here, "female-superior arrangement" means that the male is supine, and the female straddles atop him

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