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Microdosing study shows the placebo effect of taking psychelics

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Re: Microdosing study shows the placebo effect of taking psychelics

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To the people illegally micro-dosing: Why would you open yourself up to the liability of committing a felony crime for a placebo effect? The risk vs reward doesn’t seem to pan out for me.

I tried micro-dosing for a short time in my past, but gave it up for reasons not important here.

My only parent, my mother, gave me only one rule that I had to live by. I had to abide by the law, no matter what it was or if I disagreed with it. She simply just did not want me to spend my life in jail and assured me that I would feel the same way by telling me how terrible jail is (which I did).

I say this because I sympathize with your standpoint. I could have written your comment in a past life.

In short, I would ask that you empathize with the concept that one's belief might exist outside the law.

A little more to say... the variables at play here have a wide range of interpretation on a personal level. I infer from your comment that you perceive the risk to be high. I perceived my risk associated with microdosing, including the risk of being shipped to prison, to be low.

Before microdosing, I had undergone a macrodose. That macrodosing session was a positive for me. As such, the reward and exploration of a microdose was enticing enough for me to try it.

Re: Microdosing study shows the placebo effect of taking psychelics

#32
Incredible, who could have ever guessed that taking something in such a small dose that it's effects are imperceptible to the subject would reveal that the effects at such a dose are... imperceptible to the subject?

Can we do a study on whether water is wet or ice is cold next?

Re: Microdosing study shows the placebo effect of taking psychelics

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To the people illegally micro-dosing: Why would you open yourself up to the liability of committing a felony crime for a placebo effect? The risk vs reward doesn’t seem to pan out for me.

Psychedelics are not all controlled substances, eg 1P-LSD is generally legal in North America.

It's a big risk.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Analogue_Act

Re: Microdosing study shows the placebo effect of taking psychelics

#34

Incredible, who could have ever guessed that taking something in such a small dose that it's effects are imperceptible to the subject would reveal that the effects at such a dose are... imperceptible to the subject? Can we do a study on whether water is wet or ice is cold next?

This is a pretty disingenuous take on "science".

Re: Microdosing study shows the placebo effect of taking psychelics

#36

Unless I'm misreading, the study seems to only analyze the participant's self-evaluation of their emotions. In other words it provides no evidence for/against "boosted levels of creativity, empathy".

The thing I find hilarious is that microdosing is literally taking a dose so small that you don't actively feel or notice the effects, and this study decided to research to what degree the subjects feel the effects of a dose intended to be unnoticeable. The conclusions this "study" reached could also be arrived at by just reading what microdosing is.

Re: Microdosing study shows the placebo effect of taking psychelics

#37

> Meanwhile, those who consumed the drugs but thought they were taking a placebo experienced no significant increase in wellbeing. It's wild that there was a part of this study in which people were told that they weren't taking a psychadelic, but they were taking a psychadelic.

Read the study protocol, it was self blinding and it past the review board because the participants were planning to microdose anyway.

  It devised a so-called self-blinding process, in which participants filled opaque capsules with drugs or a placebo. The capsules were then placed in envelopes with a QR code and shuffled, meaning researchers could later track what participants had taken, while they themselves could not.

Re: Microdosing study shows the placebo effect of taking psychelics

#38
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To the people illegally micro-dosing: Why would you open yourself up to the liability of committing a felony crime for a placebo effect? The risk vs reward doesn’t seem to pan out for me.

The type of person to microdose is generally from a demographic unlikely to be arrested, investigated, or convicted.

Re: Microdosing study shows the placebo effect of taking psychelics

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To the people illegally micro-dosing: Why would you open yourself up to the liability of committing a felony crime for a placebo effect? The risk vs reward doesn’t seem to pan out for me.

You're overstating the legal status of simple possession.

Only in some US states is possession for personal use a felony. In some it is a misdemeanor or an infraction. In some legal jurisdictions these drugs are perfectly legal and are sold at retail.

Re: Microdosing study shows the placebo effect of taking psychelics

#40

Unless I'm misreading, the study seems to only analyze the participant's self-evaluation of their emotions. In other words it provides no evidence for/against "boosted levels of creativity, empathy".

The thing I find hilarious is that microdosing is literally taking a dose so small that you don't actively feel or notice the effects, and this study decided to research to what degree the subjects feel the effects of a dose intended to be unnoticeable. The conclusions this "study" reached could also be arrived at by just reading what microdosing is.

So then why microdose if there is no measurable effect?
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