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Bitcoin Is Time

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Re: Bitcoin Is Time

#31
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Bitcoin is a Ponzi scheme.

If Bitcoin is a Ponzi scheme, then gold must be as well.

Not really. Half of the value of gold, or thereabouts, relates to its utility as a metal. Bitcoin is purely valued because people believe others will buy it from them in future at a good price - hopefully a higher price.

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#32
post #14
post #8

Time is money. Bitcoin is wasted time. And wasted money. And wasted energy.

Negative yielding debt is literally a waste of time. Money is worth less as you move into the future. Fiat is literally a black hole.

Which is by design, to encourage investments elsewhere. The rise of Bitcoin and the stock market are probably an indication that the policy worked. People indeed are willing to burn their money in crypto rather than keeping them in savings/bonds

Re: Bitcoin Is Time

#33
post #8

Time is money. Bitcoin is wasted time. And wasted money. And wasted energy.

Everything on the planet uses energy. Why are people so obsessed with Bitcoin's energy usage in particular?

It uses orders of magnitude more energy than the "legacy" financial institutions it competes with, to process a fraction of the transactions, and has tenuous practical benefits unless you're a ransomware gang or an early mover getting rich from the hype.

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#34
post #26
post #8

Time is money. Bitcoin is wasted time. And wasted money. And wasted energy.

In the winter I ride my bike down streets lined with cars idling because their owners don't want to ride in the cold for a few minutes. In a way I appreciate bitcoin for its absurd and unambiguous wastefulness. It's sort of the perfect expression of consumerism, destroying the precious and irreplaceable earth for something immediately disposed of.

Bitcoin is the most durable money we've had, it can never be disposed of. Lost, perhaps.

Energy consumption != energy production. Bitcoin is incentivizing reusable energy and moving energy to cheaper locations, further from cities. I suggest you look into how it's actually quite positive for the Earth.

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#35
post #8

Time is money. Bitcoin is wasted time. And wasted money. And wasted energy.

Everything on the planet uses energy. Why are people so obsessed with Bitcoin's energy usage in particular?

Because Bitcoin requires insane amounts of energy compared to alternatives.

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#36
post #26
post #8

Time is money. Bitcoin is wasted time. And wasted money. And wasted energy.

In the winter I ride my bike down streets lined with cars idling because their owners don't want to ride in the cold for a few minutes. In a way I appreciate bitcoin for its absurd and unambiguous wastefulness. It's sort of the perfect expression of consumerism, destroying the precious and irreplaceable earth for something immediately disposed of.

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Re: Bitcoin Is Time

#37
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everything on the planet uses energy. Why are people so obsessed with Bitcoin's energy usage in particular?

Because it’s enormous? A colleague just finished putting together a 125MW BTC mining operation. That’s sheer insanity. Nobody has ever been able to explain how Bitcoin saves the world from climate catastrophe by using 0.3% of all electricity.

> Nobody has ever been able to explain how Bitcoin saves the world from climate catastrophe by using 0.3% of all electricity.

Why would you think that Bitcoin needs to accomplish that particular task? As far as I know ending climate change has never been mentioned as a goal or desirable outcome of the project.

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#38
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What percentage of assets are negative yielding? They can’t all be negative in real terms.

All cash is, also any investment below inflation - so most bonds.

This motivates productive use of that capital. Deflationary currencies just guarantee the rich get richer as an axiom.

Re: Bitcoin Is Time

#39
post #18

Bitcoin is a Ponzi scheme.

Ponzi schemes will always have people at the pinnacle of the period looking to sell.

Bitcoin supporters will never sell, thus there is no bottoming out. It's actually just money, you're likely missing something.

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