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Re: Firefox 86.0

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post #29

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Browser windows have decorations that take space. I don't use PIP often, but it comes in handy when I have limited screen real estate, like watching Netflix on my sidearm in tablet mode, while simultaneously doing something on the web.

This is something better solved at the window manager level. E.g. what if I want to have a PIP in my Xterm?

How does a window manager get rid of Firefox's browser chrome?

Re: Firefox 86.0

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is something better solved at the window manager level. E.g. what if I want to have a PIP in my Xterm?

How does a window manager get rid of Firefox's browser chrome?

Answer: it doesn't.

The problem is browsers have two layers of decoration: the WM layer (which tiling window managers tend to remove), and the internal layer - the tab bar, address bar, option buttons, borders, etc.

As far as I know, there isn't a way to remove all that without going full screen.

Re: Firefox 86.0

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is something better solved at the window manager level. E.g. what if I want to have a PIP in my Xterm?

How does a window manager get rid of Firefox's browser chrome?

For me it makes the fullscreen videos cover only the Firefox window, so they effectively can serve as PIP windows. To be honest, I have no idea how to enable it outside of XMonad, it just worked like this on XMonad many years ago when I switched to it and I actually liked this behavior so here we are.

Re: Firefox 86.0

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post #22
post #17

> Firefox now supports simultaneously watching multiple videos in Picture-in-Picture. Is Adderall the new Aspirin? Or is there some WFH use here that I'm missing.

For a serious answer, here's some links: https://w3c.github.io/picture-in-picture/ https://github.com/w3c/picture-in-picture/blob/master/explai... https://developers.google.com/web/updates/2018/10/watch-vide... https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1463402 https://www.chromestatus.com/feature/5729206566649856 Looks to me like it is a standard that web devs requested (e.g. so you can scroll down YouTube or what…

I think the parent is primarily referring to the multiple aspect of it (PiP was already supported).

Re: Firefox 86.0

#35

Wow, Ctrl+P has now started to open the proper print-interface with a preview! I've helped loads of people over the years complaining about printing in Fx vs Chrome. It used to be so in Fx that selecting Print from the menu opened an interface for printing (ala Chrome), but pressing Ctrl+P just opened standard OS print dialog. So power users never saw the nice print preview.

As someone who always used the Ctrl-P keyboard shortcut, I never even knew that a print-with-preview interface existed in Firefox.

Re: Firefox 86.0

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post #17

> Firefox now supports simultaneously watching multiple videos in Picture-in-Picture. Is Adderall the new Aspirin? Or is there some WFH use here that I'm missing.

I never understood this feature either. I can already make multiple browser windows if I want. Definitely not interested in PIP.

Most web pages only support two video sizes:

1. unusably small 2. full screen. Which often means unusably large (27" screen), especially for less-than-HD videos

At least youtube added at some time the cinema mode which allowed the video to occupy the whole window width, that is what I use most of the time. Still, PIP also has the advantage of removing the window decorations, so saving space. Also, they are floating on top of all other windows, which helps, but also occasionally can be annoying.

Re: Firefox 86.0

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post #7

Firefox is the only option for mobile webdev since it's the only mobile browser with devtools. However I won't use it as my main browser because of insanely frequent (and pointless) major ui changes. It messes with your muscle memory. This isn't beta software, is it?

Yeah I just have a pinned beta apk from a while back that I will never, ever update.

Same with Firefox on Desktop, for that matter.

Re: Firefox 86.0

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post #17

> Firefox now supports simultaneously watching multiple videos in Picture-in-Picture. Is Adderall the new Aspirin? Or is there some WFH use here that I'm missing.

While I usually limit myself to one video playing on the computer, when following live events it can happen that you want to have two streams running. E.g. the multiple channels streaming the Starship test flights or watch one video while waiting for another stream to come online.

Re: Firefox 86.0

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post #17

> Firefox now supports simultaneously watching multiple videos in Picture-in-Picture. Is Adderall the new Aspirin? Or is there some WFH use here that I'm missing.

I never understood this feature either. I can already make multiple browser windows if I want. Definitely not interested in PIP.

I shared the initial reaction the first time I heard about it but completely changed my mind after using it. The big win is for poorly designed sites like YouTube which use non-standard controls and waste a significant majority of the space. I have hot keys to resize windows to screen quarters or halves but for anything less than full screen on my laptop a YouTube video will have less than half of the window devoted to the actual content and the browser chrome will reduce that even further.

If there’s something I’m watching but not giving my full attention to - say an event hasn’t started yet or someone will be landing a rover on Mars in an hour - this means that I can either have a big chunk of my screen wasted or I can use PiP and have just the thing I care about using a quarter of the space but showing considerably more of the actual content.

Plus, it uses well-tested standard controls so I don’t have to play games figuring out whose kiddies don’t think about keyboard shortcuts or test their event handlers.

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