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Rare 'half-male, half-female' cardinal photographed in Pennsylvania

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Re: Rare 'half-male, half-female' cardinal photographed in Pennsylvania

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When you hear a pronoun mix like he/they, that's usually shorthand for "I use both he/him/his and they/them/theirs pronouns."

I understand the need for “he/they”; I do not understand the need for “he/him” opposed to simply “he”. If I see “he”, I and everyone else I would gather, would certainly assume that the object pronoun congruates.

Oh, I understand what you meant now.

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I always wondered about this strange form if it suggests that one is permitted to have nonstandard combinations of subject and object pronouns. It seems odd to me to list them separately. — certainly, if I see “he” I would assume that the object pronoun is to be “him”, and the genitive and possessive pronouns “his”.

Watch what happens if you try to tell people to use him/he for you instead of he/him.

I would assume that the number of people that would honor it would be lower, though not nonexistent.

Re: Rare 'half-male, half-female' cardinal photographed in Pennsylvania

#33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you hear a pronoun mix like he/they, that's usually shorthand for "I use both he/him/his and they/them/theirs pronouns."

I understand the need for “he/they”; I do not understand the need for “he/him” opposed to simply “he”. If I see “he”, I and everyone else I would gather, would certainly assume that the object pronoun congruates.

I think the main reason is that, especially if used in general text (e.g. a general description field, not something specifically reserved for this), it makes it a bit easier to recognize as pronoun information by always following a distinctive pattern.

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I understand the need for “he/they”; I do not understand the need for “he/him” opposed to simply “he”. If I see “he”, I and everyone else I would gather, would certainly assume that the object pronoun congruates.

I think the main reason is that, especially if used in general text (e.g. a general description field, not something specifically reserved for this), it makes it a bit easier to recognize as pronoun information by always following a distinctive pattern.

I would think that most people would understand a Twitter line such as “Algeria/programmer/he/FOSS activist”, which is how it is often phrased with the other things in such fields.

Re: Rare 'half-male, half-female' cardinal photographed in Pennsylvania

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the main reason is that, especially if used in general text (e.g. a general description field, not something specifically reserved for this), it makes it a bit easier to recognize as pronoun information by always following a distinctive pattern.

I would think that most people would understand a Twitter line such as “Algeria/programmer/he/FOSS activist”, which is how it is often phrased with the other things in such fields.

The longer convention came first. And it's more distinct when spoken.

Re: Rare 'half-male, half-female' cardinal photographed in Pennsylvania

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So, in what other species can "bilateral gynandromorphism" occur? I'm not having much success googling this.

Also, is this just a specific type of genetic mosaicism? I've heard of humans with mosaic DNA (sometimes showing up as patches of alternative skin/hair coloration, etc.); but for some reason I've never heard of humans with mosaic DNA of two different chromosomal sexes.

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