It sounds like a tremendous amount of creativity, but limited in scope to making videos? It seems kind of narrowly focused on entertainment.
TikTok and the network effects of creativity
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#32I think the "each new member can enhance creativity of existing members" vibe can exist generally among "scenes", and scenes definitely can use technology that directly taps into this.
I like the "scenius" term for this from Brian Eno: https://youtu.be/0qATeJcL1XQ (54:15 in that talk)
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#33The author is very incorrect. > By network effects of creativity, I mean that every additional user on TikTok makes every other user more creative. That is false. TikTok isn't a creativity amplification network, it's a mimic network. The extreme majority of humans are mimics, they essentially never create or do anything creative or original. They are incapable of that (cue the outrage at such a statement, even though…
"good artists copy; great artists steal"
Even someone as great as Picasso would not have been able to create the masterwork he left us without learning and getting inspirations (aka, steal) from other artists before his time.
If you ever think someone is creating good original art (because shitty original art is easy to create), chances are you are just not familiar with the work they stole from.
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#34The most disruptive part of Tiktok is how it managed to dramatically reduce the "rich gets richer" effect of entertainment platforms. If you upload a video, TikTok will show it to other users even if it's your first. This allows them to assess it and progressively grow its audience. On YouTube and Instagram you'd have to rely on search traffic or external sources to build up your audience and get recommended (except…
To be fair, the discoverability on Youtube is shit and has been for years now (another topic).
As much as I dislike TikTok for being idiotic, that's actually an aspect to sort of like about it.
Of course it's still algorithmic spoon-feeding, but it seems they're inching closer to saner discovery tools. One can hope...
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#35It sounds like a tremendous amount of creativity, but limited in scope to making videos? It seems kind of narrowly focused on entertainment.
...or anything else that you can fit into video, such as news and politics or education and editorial.
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#36The most disruptive part of Tiktok is how it managed to dramatically reduce the "rich gets richer" effect of entertainment platforms. If you upload a video, TikTok will show it to other users even if it's your first. This allows them to assess it and progressively grow its audience. On YouTube and Instagram you'd have to rely on search traffic or external sources to build up your audience and get recommended (except…
This is an issue I've always hated about Steemit.com, too.
There were a few writing mediocre at best content making up to $1,500 a day/post at some point, just because they managed to gain a lot of followers initially, while everyone else had to deal with writing dozens of posts and making only a few dollars a month, if that.
Social platforms should take this "inequality" issue a lot more seriously. It's in their long-term benefit to have thousands, millions of people who "make it big" on their platform, not just a handful that make it "really big."
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I dont think this is true. Creativity happens when you combine/blend prior knowledge. We don't magically create new information without prior meaning. TikTok acts likes this and the remix is like a blending/combining prior creativity that leads to continuous new creativity.
This very easily refuted, then no creativity is possible because who was going to create the "first knowledge"
Your refutations is even more easily refuted. First knowledge is created by observing the world around us. Mimickry of the natural world is all around us, you even see it in animals.
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Fantastic and courageous minds working from the void? Or fantastic and courageous minds responding to some cultural or historical material? (Which would be much in the way a TikToker responds to a meme while adding some of their own spice). Let’s not get bogged down by the fact that one domain might be perceived as more valuable/respected and the other not so. What have philosophers ever done post-Socrates except com…
Yes, fantastic and courageous minds. The kind of person we all due our civilization: Newton, Hooke, Darwin,Gauss, Euler,Watts.
I think there is some truth in that those characters were more creative than many other, but they did not create in a void. Your first example, Newton, said "If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of Giants." Who am I to contradict Newton? :)
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This very easily refuted, then no creativity is possible because who was going to create the "first knowledge"
Your refutations is even more easily refuted. First knowledge is created by observing the world around us. Mimickry of the natural world is all around us, you even see it in animals.
So you could create the knowledge without imitating others. Try again. The second time maybe will be better. That without entering in the discredited philosophical position of empiricism for epistemology.
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Yes, fantastic and courageous minds. The kind of person we all due our civilization: Newton, Hooke, Darwin,Gauss, Euler,Watts.
I think there is some truth in that those characters were more creative than many other, but they did not create in a void. Your first example, Newton, said "If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of Giants." Who am I to contradict Newton? :)
Arent you the same kid saying in other comment that there is not creativity, just imitation? Take a position and stick to it. BTW you are misinterpreting Newton (on purpose or not). He didnt say he copy them, he was humbly acknowledging there have been giants in science before him.