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The Muppet Show: Disney+ adds content warning of negative depictions of cultures

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Re: The Muppet Show: Disney+ adds content warning of negative depictions of cultures

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Argh. My dream is that one day people will understand that a really large chunk (probably the vast majority) of piss-ripping found in humour isn't actually racist or misogynistic but is actually the complete opposite in making a statement about the stupidity of the protagonists' racism or misogyny. Fawlty Towers 6th episode "The Germans" is a classic case in point. The entire premise of the episode was not "Germans a…

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Re: The Muppet Show: Disney+ adds content warning of negative depictions of cultures

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The same content warning has been added to 'Aladdin' (the 1992 cartoon, not the Will Smith shameless money grab). I'm wading into shark-filled waters here but could someone please explain the racist bits of Aladdin to me?

Aladdin and the Muppet Show are both great. Maybe Disney’s warning system can be used as a filter for finding the best content on the platform?

Sort of like r/ControversialClub

Re: The Muppet Show: Disney+ adds content warning of negative depictions of cultures

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>> ... and singing in a heavy accent lines such as: “Once his love gave him golden earring / And now the ears are turning green.”

One has to dig deep and have a basic understanding of chemistry to understand that insult. If we are digging that deep for insults there are bound to be hundreds more. The Muppets are all in primary colors. Many of them do silly things that other characters laugh at. And they each display exaggerated characteristics that never really evolve. If we draw out venn diagrams of color/race, slapstick comedy bits and offensive historical stereotypes, surely we can find something more insulting than this. Swedish Chef would be in my crosshairs, excepting the fact that in one episode it is explained that he isn't actually Swedish.

Re: The Muppet Show: Disney+ adds content warning of negative depictions of cultures

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The same content warning has been added to 'Aladdin' (the 1992 cartoon, not the Will Smith shameless money grab). I'm wading into shark-filled waters here but could someone please explain the racist bits of Aladdin to me?

Aladdin was obviously not intended to be racist and was probably made by people with good intentions. The same could be said of Uncle Tom’s Cabin and Song of the South. But 1992 was a dramatically more racist and reactionary era than 2021, and the 1992 film really is unacceptably racist to show to children.

It is impossible to ignore that Jasmine/Aladdin both have light skin, European faces, and American accents, whereas Jafar and all the hostile guards or street merchants are grotesque Arab caricatures. Seriously - the only Arab “accents” come from bad guys, they tend to have huge hooked or bulbous noses and very dark skin, and they’re all psychotically violent. Most of the references to Arab culture are superficial and rely on stereotypes for cheap laughs (watch the opening scene with the merchant again).

Re: The Muppet Show: Disney+ adds content warning of negative depictions of cultures

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post #6

I adored the Muppet Show as a kid. Tried watching it with my daughters this weekend, since it just became available. "Dad, this is weird. This is really weird. It's not even a show! Just weird little scenes!" ["not even a show" = no connective plot] These kids have all kinds of precision-engineered laser-guided entertainment aimed squarely at their cerebral cortex. They don't need the Muppet Show like I did, I guess.

The movies that came out a few years ago are great. My daughter liked them (at least until something else came along and stole her attention). Great songs and a quirky humor where they break the third wall again and again in true Muppet Show style.

Re: The Muppet Show: Disney+ adds content warning of negative depictions of cultures

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hilariously so. Bork.

You mean that's not actually Swedish?! ;-)

As someone from Denmark I gotta tell ya, that guy is 100% authentically Swedish. I'm pretty sure the Norwegians will back me up on this. :)

Re: The Muppet Show: Disney+ adds content warning of negative depictions of cultures

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post #26

Argh. My dream is that one day people will understand that a really large chunk (probably the vast majority) of piss-ripping found in humour isn't actually racist or misogynistic but is actually the complete opposite in making a statement about the stupidity of the protagonists' racism or misogyny. Fawlty Towers 6th episode "The Germans" is a classic case in point. The entire premise of the episode was not "Germans a…

> Literally the only people actually being offended are - who...?

Those who have been the target of persecution, slavery, police and other systemic discrimination up to outright genocides for hundreds to thousands of years.

It's not that hard to have fun without having to step on other people's toes, or to recognize that what was acceptable 50 years ago is not acceptable today, because society has progressed.

Re: The Muppet Show: Disney+ adds content warning of negative depictions of cultures

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post #21

Hey, didn't Disney make those war-time toons where they made fun of Germans? I guess they'll probably slap a warning on them now...

No warning needed. It’s ok to mock them if they’re white.

Germany here. We're fine being mocked for being white, thank you very much. Even my neighbors from Gambia, Spain or Columbia are fine with that as a reminder for our shitty history, to keep the remembering alive to never repeat that shit.
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