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A Dishonest, Indifferent, and Toxic Culture

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Re: A Dishonest, Indifferent, and Toxic Culture

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The sheer amount of typos here is....challenging. And I'm not one to pick on someone who's doing their best to communicate in a second language or anything but shoot this really could've used a copy editor.

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Re: A Dishonest, Indifferent, and Toxic Culture

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I want to express sympathies in a particular way: When I had a job I didn’t want, in a city i didn’t want, no kids, no wife, and prospects abounding, it was easy to speak truth to power. I did it, and I was right technically, businesswise, and morally. What a win...(?) Now, I have my dream job, my dream location, my own damn house, and my family. -Whole thing feels like a dream I might wake up from if I am not carefu…

>Now, I have my dream job, my dream location, my own damn house, and my family. -Whole thing feels like a dream I might wake up from if I am not careful... and I feel totally weighed down when it comes to speaking up in a way I would have never countenanced a few years ago. I'm not at this point yet, but reading this makes me wonder why any employer would ever prefer younger employees with nothing tying them down, fo…

Oh yes, some (many?) employers do prefer those with more to loose.

Immigration rules tie right into this as well (of course).

Re: A Dishonest, Indifferent, and Toxic Culture

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It's rather sad that you can guess from the title that this is probably about academia. I have to say though that I can't confirm any of this for my institutions, professors, and fields of research. I've always worked with honest and caring professors, who cared more about correctness of results than headlines and fame.

Re: A Dishonest, Indifferent, and Toxic Culture

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The story is sad.

In both academia and corporate I've known many who find it difficult to stand up for themselves. It is already a difficult and yet courageous act to express a different view to your professor, boss, employer, etc. Things are never the same if speaking out. There are those who simply just do what is told. Simply Leave. Or fall through a deep hole when there is imbalance when taking on an action that is against what you stand up for.

Re: A Dishonest, Indifferent, and Toxic Culture

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My condolences to the family & friends.

Having read this article it made me sad. On a good note, ACM seems to have reacted in a proper way. Glad to see this. This student must have been very very alone and suffered immensely to take this decision. Sadly, I have witnessed this exact same thing at a very well known university in Germany. With great effort this was kept away from the public and blamed on the PhD student himself ('This guy had _other_ problems'). Even though he left a letter, which was also very explicit about his situation. This left me thinking, how often this actually happens but receives no publicity...

I believe most people, who enter the world of academe have good principles and ideals. In German pedagogy this is called "Humboldtsches Bildungsideal" which translates unfortunately into this [1]. Humboldt's model was very much based on many ideas of the enlightenment, esp. concerning one's pursuit of intellectual growth for its own sake and the world citizen.

Unfortunately the economic grip on the world of academe in many fields gets stronger and at one point in time ones sees these ideals destroyed.

It's best witnessed with what happened to the internet. Wonder how many can remember how it 'felt' in the beginning after CERN opened it to the world... and now, look at it.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humboldtian_model_of_higher_ed...

Re: A Dishonest, Indifferent, and Toxic Culture

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I'm gonna get enemies for that .... But let's face it: the Academia peer review process is pretty rotten. - Many organisations could not care less about whatever crap you publish as long as you publish. And if possible a lot. - Many journal's reviewers are friend of friends and you can often easily guess their names, even in double blinded review. - Many reviewers care more about you quoting their own paper than givi…

I take it you meant to say 'competing lab' instead of 'concurrent lab' in your 2nd to last comment.

Indeed. Fixed.

Re: A Dishonest, Indifferent, and Toxic Culture

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I'm gonna get enemies for that .... But let's face it: the Academia peer review process is pretty rotten. - Many organisations could not care less about whatever crap you publish as long as you publish. And if possible a lot. - Many journal's reviewers are friend of friends and you can often easily guess their names, even in double blinded review. - Many reviewers care more about you quoting their own paper than givi…

My experience is different. Peer review is far from perfect but:

* Most of my papers have had thoughtful comments. Typically, they improved the paper, sometimes a lot.

* I have very rarely been asked to quote a specific paper from a specific author. Of course, pointing out important references that the paper has missed is part of peer review, so this would not necessarily be evidence of corruption.

* There are loads of crap pay-to-publish predatory journals, but publishing in those journals would harm my career, not help it. Nobody cares about them.

* I've not experienced people rejecting papers from rival labs or departments. I don't say it doesn't happen, but I haven't experienced it.

* I myself try hard to give high-quality reviews that explore the paper's value in depth.

I am from one particular discipline, country and subfield. Others may have very different experiences.

Again, I am not claiming academic peer review and publishing doesn't need a lot of improvement. Removing the parasitic mainstream publishers like Elsevier and Springer would be a great start.

Re: A Dishonest, Indifferent, and Toxic Culture

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From the suicide note:

> Considering that this will have an impact on my career in the future and my reputation in the area of Computer Architecture, my future life will be worse than death and I will be totally in a dilemma.

Maybe we also need to change academic culture to allow people to confess academic fraud, receive punishment and than be forgiven and continue academic careers.

Currently once you started, there is no exit and fraudsters are incentivized to continue to sustain their building of lies.

With financial debt we allow people to go bankrupt and be reborn free (after some time and a honest effort; not including American student debt).

Why not with your past academic fraud?

Re: A Dishonest, Indifferent, and Toxic Culture

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Why did the University of Florida tolerant this and kind of keep protecting that professor?

Same reason the conference allowed the professor to present the paper even though the first author committed suicide over it and left a suicide letter which blamed the misconduct and the professor —- nobody in academia gives a shit. Don’t mistake the penalty for integrity. These are the same guys that abuse vulnerable students to fuel their ego-trip (which they call careers).
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