Shady alert: I just clicked on one of the testimonials ("Jason S Co") and it seems apparent that it is an employee of Comma, all retweets of comma's main twitter account.
Autopilot on Cars for $999
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#32Wait, founded by George Hotz? As in GeoHot? The PS3 jailbreak guy?
Yes, this has been his project for many years now - he threw a fit and fled to China in 2016 when the NHTSA sent him a Special Order requesting test data for the Comma One product, which he then cancelled and released as pseudo open-source (the ML model is still a closed black box).
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#33Anyone know if this has killed someone yet?
Human life is sacred. Absolutely.
but.
If we are concerned with cars killing people, we should get rid of cars. This FUD around self-driving == killing people will, in the long-term, cause more deaths than the handful of sensationalized stories about self-driving deaths.
The only reason those car crashes get national attention is because they were self-driving. In every other way they are boring. Bicyclists hit by car: every day. Man killed by semi: every day. etc.
Do you think you'd see a bunch of FUD about a 2021 manually-driven Chevy mystery car getting in a minor fenderbender and equating it with the safety of the entire car industry? No.
But: https://insideevs.com/news/333516/self-driving-chevrolet-bol...
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#34Is it correct Comma.AI sees this as the following statement below appears to say, or am I missing something? If so, why would anyone be using this product outside of a test environment that’s fully controlled? — “Any user of this software shall indemnify and hold harmless comma.ai, Inc. and its directors, officers, employees, agents, stockholders, affiliates, subcontractors and customers from and against all allegati…
>THIS IS ALPHA QUALITY SOFTWARE FOR RESEARCH PURPOSES ONLY. THIS IS NOT A PRODUCT.
It is weird that one of the only things I see above the fold on the company's home page is a "Buy Now" button considering they don't actually sell "a product".
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#35wait so many normal cars now have steering motors that you can actuate via OBD?? Is that just leveraging the lane keep assist feature on these modern cars? How much can that hardware steer for you?
Since the early 2000's most cars have been using a drive-by-wire system for steering. They aren't exposed on OBD2 though, that's just for legacy emissions. Most are on a CAN bus but there isn't some big standard to control them all--it's very much a manufacturer by manufacturer thing right now.
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#36Would you drive to Tahoe in the snow with this?
https://comma.ai/faq
Why even ask?
Long trips means spending a lot of time boringly driving on the highway with clear weather. I do not care for help in the more difficult first 15 min or last 15 min. I care about having help during the many hours in between.
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#37Anyone know if this has killed someone yet?
You mean the car gets in crashes when Toyota Lane tracing (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVyRsdILbRw) or honda lane assist(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpgYCC8zG84) or the nissan propilot system (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFJ_4uEG6Og) is enabled. I am sure there are a lot of cases. Just have to ask these car companies to release data
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#38Anyone know if this has killed someone yet?
I know for sure Tesla and Uber has. Seems like Comma's product requires your attention through driver monitoring whereas Tesla's product is non existent in this area. And with Uber the driver was distracted. edit: Downvoters, i'm a bit confused here, so Tesla and Uber hasn't killed anybody then?
Tesla’s product also requires driver monitoring. They explicitly say so, so your statement is clearly false.
Not excusing Tesla’s faults but the volume of Tesla’s cars on the road compared to Comma’s would probably explain the difference in statistics.
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#39Their business is not only taken less capital, but they have also just become profitable even with selling hardware which I find that impressive, unlike their other competitors who have either shutdown or have been acquired. As for their autopilot system, they are self-hosting their deep learning training systems (Not in the cloud but in-house) and their competition is literally off road and non-existent (expect for…
For the lazy, jump to page 7 of the above PDF (labeled page 6 in the doc), the section is called "Overall Ratings Results". The 3 highest scores are:
78 - Comma Two Open Pilot
69 - Cadillac Super Cruise
57 - Tesla Autopilot
Well done indeed.
Re: Autopilot on Cars for $999
#40Shady alert: I just clicked on one of the testimonials ("Jason S Co") and it seems apparent that it is an employee of Comma, all retweets of comma's main twitter account.
Just clicked on another and... it's another Comma retweet factory. This is a super shady business!