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You have never seen far left if you think the NYT is far left.
No true Bolshevik.
No. The NYT has a liberal bias. Not a left bias.
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#32I’m curious why the NYT hasn’t been the victim of a large scale hack/infiltration/leak/exposé. With all the shenanigans their staff seem to pull and the enemies they make, you’d think their communications and files and finances would be a big target. Is their op-sec really that good? Do they get help from the intel community?
Re: WHO scientists: NYT misquoted us to fit a prescribed narrative
#33> NYT misquoted us to fit a prescribed narrative Join the club! Maybe there was something to Mr. Trump's quips about the "Fake News Media".
There was (and is), but you're not going to find many that agree on here. (Even in the comment section of a supporting data point.) People who dislike Trump (the majority of HN readers) are strongly biased to react negatively at the very mention of his name. Ironically, a not-insignificant contributing reason for this is... corrupt and biased news media. I'll patiently await my tribal downvotes, now...
One nice perk of journalists doing much of their research on Google nowadays is that a layman can too -- there is little moat around journalism anymore. So a couple years back I decided to take an informal random sampling of news articles from respectable US newspapers, and dig up the source material associated with those events. I found that when you looked at the sources, about 3/4 of the claims made about Trump were either deeply misleading, or outright false.
The WMD debacle killed my trust in media, but this was beyond my expectations. I can only hope the sample was not representative.
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#34Re: WHO scientists: NYT misquoted us to fit a prescribed narrative
#35It's worth noting the original tweet is from Peter Daszak, who has been president of EcoHealth Alliance which has for 15 years worked with the Wuhan Institute of Virology studying bat coronaviruses[1][2][3]. He's been on record many times at least since February 2020 saying the ideas of lab break were "crackpot theories that need to be addressed" else they might harm our cooperation with China.[4] At the very least t…
Not surprised you are getting immediately down voted. My post is as well. There seems to be bias HN users as well, no amount of facts or historical reference is enough to correct it.
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#36Seeing a lot of evidence of late that NYT Journalists arent playing fairly. The Greenwald article which despite its problems points out bad faith on the part of Taylor Lorenz(I think that is her name) and now we have WHO scientists claiming that Javier C. Hernández and James Gorman have bent the truth. I wouldnt be as bothered by this if it were possible to call out bad journalism without being dismissed as a "fake n…
Just to add to the list, Noam Chomsky has long maintained that the NYT has a very strong agenda regarding Israel which manifests in any and all related coverage.[1] Such an idea ran contrary to my long held sentiment for the NYT as rational and unbiased but I am seeing it more and more. [1] Chomsky writes about this in Understanding Power.
Noam Chomsky has an agenda himself, I would not use him as a factual reference for any such perceived bias.
Re: WHO scientists: NYT misquoted us to fit a prescribed narrative
#37Seeing a lot of evidence of late that NYT Journalists arent playing fairly. The Greenwald article which despite its problems points out bad faith on the part of Taylor Lorenz(I think that is her name) and now we have WHO scientists claiming that Javier C. Hernández and James Gorman have bent the truth. I wouldnt be as bothered by this if it were possible to call out bad journalism without being dismissed as a "fake n…
Just to add to the list, Noam Chomsky has long maintained that the NYT has a very strong agenda regarding Israel which manifests in any and all related coverage.[1] Such an idea ran contrary to my long held sentiment for the NYT as rational and unbiased but I am seeing it more and more. [1] Chomsky writes about this in Understanding Power.
And what does NYTs coverage of Israel has to do with the issue on hand?
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
There was (and is), but you're not going to find many that agree on here. (Even in the comment section of a supporting data point.) People who dislike Trump (the majority of HN readers) are strongly biased to react negatively at the very mention of his name. Ironically, a not-insignificant contributing reason for this is... corrupt and biased news media. I'll patiently await my tribal downvotes, now...
There is fake news, and Fake News, the propaganda term used by Mr Trump as a weapon against anybody who used to disagree with him. I agree that honest journalism these days is a lost art, but I do not care to be associated with far right American propaganda, thanks.
Perhaps—and I respect your acknowledgment of the problem—but that is a false dichotomy.
A tremendous amount of opposition news was false and also propaganda, so perhaps you're just picking sides. But I'm of the opinion that there is one area in which both sides could unite for the benefit of the entire country: against propaganda in any form.
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#39At this point the NYT is a tabloid.
Agreed. Used to respect the NY times, but now it's just borderline far left propaganda
I wish NYT was far left. How does the NYT mispresenting WHO scientists to push the story that China was hiding COVID constitute "far left" to you? That is a dead on Trumpian conspiracy.
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just to add to the list, Noam Chomsky has long maintained that the NYT has a very strong agenda regarding Israel which manifests in any and all related coverage.[1] Such an idea ran contrary to my long held sentiment for the NYT as rational and unbiased but I am seeing it more and more. [1] Chomsky writes about this in Understanding Power.
Noam Chomsky has an agenda himself, I would not use him as a factual reference for any such perceived bias.
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